Started by Absurd Atheist, August 30, 2016, 09:58:48 AM
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on August 30, 2016, 09:58:48 AM"God does not know everything that will happen. He does not need to know. He uses his foreknowledge selectively according to his purpose.
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on August 30, 2016, 09:58:48 AMThe final argument present by some guy named "Apostle Paul" who 'quote' believes everything the Bible says is true. We were discussing (among other things) the irregularities between an omniscient God and one who constantly has to fix his mistakes, and the notion that an all-knowing God creates and allows evil to exist to test his 'creation'."God does not know everything that will happen. He does not need to know. He uses his foreknowledge selectively according to his purpose. What is the meaning of the word "test" if He already knew what will happen back in Eden? It does not make sense."Thoughts?
QuoteGod is Omniscient â€" The New Testament Evidenceâ€œOh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!â€ (Romans 11:33). â€œNothing in all creation is hidden from Godâ€™s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give accountâ€ (Hebrews 4:13). â€œIndeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Donâ€™t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrowsâ€ (Luke 12:7). â€œWhenever our hearts condemn us. For God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everythingâ€ (1 John 3:20). â€œAre not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numberedâ€ (Matthew 10:29-30).
QuoteOMNISCIENCE OF GOD- God Knows EverythingThe Bible repeatedly tells us that God knows everything. His knowledge, in fact, is â€œperfect [Job 37:16] and is â€œbeyond measureâ€ [Psa. 147:5]. He sees every move we make, He knows the innermost thoughts of our hearts and He even knows what we are going to say before we say it [1 Sam. 16:7; 1 Chron. 28:9; Psa. 139:1-6; Jer. 17:10; Heb. 4:12-13]. Unlike the false gods of our time, the Lord knows everything: Even whatâ€™s going to happen in the future [Isa. 41:21-24; 42:9; 44:7]. Jesus, interestingly enough, also tells us that our heavenly Father numbers the very hairs on our head. By the way, itâ€™s interesting to note that God actually revealed to Isaiah the name of Cyrus even before he was actually born â€" in fact, one century before he was born. Cyrus, of course, was the king who returned the Jews to their homeland after the Babylonian exile [Isa. 44:28-45:1].
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on August 30, 2016, 09:58:48 AMWhat is the meaning of the word "test" if He already knew what will happen back in Eden? It does not make sense."Thoughts?
Quote from: stromboli on August 30, 2016, 10:51:07 AMOmniscient: having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things. ... The omniscient, omnipotent, and infinite Deity, of what can he be jealous? ... As they certainly are omnipotent, and profess to be omniscient, it is only to be supposed that they should be ...http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/God,-All-Knowing138 verses on omnisciencehttp://www.equip.org/perspectives/omniscience-does-god-know-all-things/I think that about covers it.
Quote from: stromboli on August 30, 2016, 11:25:22 AMThere are inherent contradictions in the concept of omniscience. If god knows all and knows the future and knows everything we do, the concept of free will goes right out the window. Prophecy of the Bible in Revelations gives a relatively sketchy account of future events, but gives them nonetheless. To say god doesn't know the future would indicate prophecy is false. If you claim any prophecy of future events is allegory or metaphor then you throw the inerrant word of god and bible literacy out the window. Gog and Magog and the 7 year Tribulation are all pretty carved in stone. Gog and Magog is seldom mentioned in discussions, but it is laid out in Ezekiel 38 and 39 and also is mentioned in Revelations- Rev. 20:7-9. and is still touted as a future event, even though there are people that claim the Israeli 6 day war fulfills that, which is silly.