Marxism 101: Socialism and Communism

Started by etienne, March 10, 2017, 05:50:59 AM

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Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 09:11:59 AM
Your contributions to this thread started out bad and have gone downhill from there, Mr. Cave, or, Bear.  Pretty soon you will be on the floor and you will have no further to fall.  BTW, don't you have some "Clan" duties to attend to?



Yup that's where my handle comes from.  When I first got internet service in the early dial up 90s, the 1st 2 phrases I searched were "atheist" and "Ayla" from Clan of The Cave Bear.  Very good sleuthing...  And I don't mind a bit.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

etienne

Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 10:07:24 AM
Yup that's where my handle comes from.  When I first got internet service in the early dial up 90s, the 1st 2 phrases I searched were "atheist" and "Ayla" from Clan of The Cave Bear.  Very good sleuthing...  And I don't mind a bit.
I never read it, not into children's books, LOLOL!
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 10:12:37 AM
I never read it, not into children's books, LOLOL!

Its not a childrens' book.  It has (and don't spread this around) sex paragraphs.  A joke among fans, but Auel "tried".
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

etienne

Quote from: pr126 on March 14, 2017, 05:20:50 AM
Here is a question to etienne.

How many millions of people had to die for the communist ideology?

Etienne is fond of posting videos. Here is one

The Great Joe Rogan vid
Ok, bro'fessor, I watched for a min, pressed pause, and Wiki'd "Jordan Peterson".  There's plenty I can say about him, but certain names came up in association with him--bad names.  Names like, "Stefan Molyneux", and "Alex Jones", and "Gavin McInnes", and "Fox Fascist Propaganda", and "Sam Harris", who we all know is a moderate conservative at best and doesn't know jack squat about So-Comm.

So this is what you want to present to me?  A buncha Libertarian fascists offering their "fair and balanced" view re Marxism, So-Comm, etc.  I wipe my ass with Libertarians, I already did so on this very thread.  So, what I am saying is these guys are all on the take, they are well paid shills that have the agenda of their "handlers"--fascist "handlers".  Molyneux and Jones being the worst offenders.  Really, Alex Jones?  FYI, "globalist bankers" is code for "The Jews", as in "globalist Jewish bankers" responsible for all the angry blue collar white man's woes in the world.  Guess where that idea came from?  I give you 2 guesses.  Ok, US's very own Henry The Car Guy Ford, as in his book, "The International Jew", which was YOOGELY influential on one Adolph Hitler--who ate that shit up for dinner and pooped it out to this guy name "Joseph Goebbels", who was also not a nice man.

So, in short, BIGLY credibility probs right out of the gate with your rep JP there.  And Joe Rogan, are you serious?!  But, true to my word, I will watch the vid as per our "deal".
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 10:34:39 AM
Ok, bro'fessor, I watched for a min, pressed pause, and Wiki'd "Jordan Peterson".  There's plenty I can say about him, but certain names came up in association with him--bad names.  Names like, "Stefan Molyneux", and "Alex Jones", and "Gavin McInnes", and "Fox Fascist Propaganda", and "Sam Harris", who we all know is a moderate conservative at best and doesn't know jack squat about So-Comm.

So this is what you want to present to me?  A buncha Libertarian fascists offering their "fair and balanced" view re Marxism, So-Comm, etc.  I wipe my ass with Libertarians, I already did so on this very thread.  So, what I am saying is these guys are all on the take, they are well paid shills that have the agenda of their "handlers"--fascist "handlers".  Molyneux and Jones being the worst offenders.  Really, Alex Jones?  FYI, "globalist bankers" is code for "The Jews", as in "globalist Jewish bankers" responsible for all the angry blue collar white man's woes in the world.  Guess where that idea came from?  I give you 2 guesses.  Ok, US's very own Henry The Car Guy Ford, as in his book, "The International Jew", which was YOOGELY influential on one Adolph Hitler--who ate that shit up for dinner and pooped it out to this guy name "Joseph Goebbels", who was also not a nice man.

So, in short, BIGLY credibility probs right out of the gate with your rep JP there.  And Joe Rogan, are you serious?!  But, true to my word, I will watch the vid as per our "deal".

Now wait a minute, I like Sam Harris the atheist.  Or are you talking about a different Sam Harris?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

etienne

Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 10:40:43 AM
Now wait a minute, I like Sam Harris the atheist.  Or are you talking about a different Sam Harris?
Sam Harris is awesome and quite entertaining on religion/atheism.  The same Sam Harris is a complete idiot re politics/socioeconomics.  Amazing how the brain can compartmentalize.  Well, he's bourgeoisie. ;)
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

etienne

Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 10:18:36 AM
Its not a childrens' book.  It has (and don't spread this around) sex paragraphs.  A joke among fans, but Auel "tried".
Oh, everybody likes sex, that shit's biological.  I dunno, when I get done with collected works of Dostoevsky--AMAZING WRITER!--well, I doubt "Cave Beer Clanz" makes the roster in this lifetime, sorry to say--sex or no sex.  Richard Wright is a MUST read guy for the uninitiated, everything, especially, "Native Son" and "The Outsider"--DEEP stuff.  He was a serious Commie for a piece after he escaped from the Jim Crow South to Lefty Chicago.  Many Blacks were at that time, since Whitey Cap Man had always treated Him so "fairly".  Richard Wright, top 5 all time American authors list, IMO.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 11:19:55 AM
Sam Harris is awesome and quite entertaining on religion/atheism.  The same Sam Harris is a complete idiot re politics/socioeconomics.  Amazing how the brain can compartmentalize.  Well, he's bourgeoisie. ;)

An atheist can be a idiot on other subjects?  Are you sure?  Do you have proof?  No wait, you might and I don't want to read a bunch of nonsense.  How about Richard Dawkins or Michel Shermer?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

etienne

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Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 11:37:03 AM
An atheist can be a idiot on other subjects?  Are you sure?  Do you have proof?  No wait, you might and I don't want to read a bunch of nonsense.  How about Richard Dawkins or Michel Shermer?
Yeah, it's common, in fact, just read the threads on this site.  Dawkins and Sherman are both bourgeoisie capitalists that have ZERO interest in revolutionary Marxist/Leninist/Maoist science--historical materialism  They have cushy CuSHY lives, why fuck that up by becoming a rev socialist?  Socialism isnt even on their radar and they tend to assume, like Sam, that molecular/genetic science will "someday" solve the socioeconomic "mystery".  Thats the bigly problem with over specialization, which Marx also wrote about over 150 years ago.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

pr126

Communism? No thanks.

I was there

Managed to escape to the west just after the failed revolution.



Cavebear

Quote from: pr126 on March 14, 2017, 11:50:46 AM
Communism? No thanks.

I was there

Managed to escape to the west just after the failed revolution.

I'm not real big on practiced communism either...  Theory fails when there is 1 beet and 2 hungry people.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

etienne

Chairman Meow pawses for a short non-commercial message to The People:

QuoteI sez dat Socialisms/Communisms is da most puuurfect antidote for all that ails Mankind--and kittayz too.  Carry on Comrades...

The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

etienne

Quote from: pr126 on March 14, 2017, 11:50:46 AM
Communism? No thanks.

I was there

Managed to escape to the west just after the failed revolution.
Why did you allow it to fail?
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...

Cavebear

Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 11:59:13 AM
Chairman Meow pawses for a short non-commercial message to The People:



I hesitate to ask, but I know a Chairman Meow.  Have you cat-blogged?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

etienne

Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
I hesitate to ask, but I know a Chairman Meow.  Have you cat-blogged?
Have never pawsed to do that, nope.
The Revolution does not fall like an apple when it is ripe:  you have to MAKE it fall...