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Title: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: stromboli on September 21, 2013, 09:29:37 AM
http://rt.com/news/nairobi-mall-attack-fatalities-182/ (http://rt.com/news/nairobi-mall-attack-fatalities-182/)

QuoteAt least 20 people have been reported dead after gunmen stormed an upscale mall in the Kenyan capital Nairobi, says Kenya's Red Cross. Witnesses said the attackers ordered all Muslims to leave the premises, as only non-Muslims would be targeted.

Five assailants, armed with AK-47s and grenades launched their attack on the Westgate shopping mall in the Kenyan capital around midday.

Gunmen were said to have lobbed grenades at the onset of the strike.

No official confirmation on the number of fatalities has been released, but Kenya's Red Cross says 15 people have been killed since gunmen took over the shopping complex. At least two dozen more are said to have been injured.

Police helicopters can been seen circling over the building with sporadic gunfire still being heard more than two hours after the attack was still launched.

"They have seven hostages, confirmed," an officer told AFP. Police are currently engaged in an ongoing shop-by-shop sweep of the complex.

Armed police shouted "get out, get out" as scores of shoppers fled the building. Smoke billowed out of the entrance, which was believed to have been caused by the grenade attack.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on September 21, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
I'm sure god is pleased. More souls to plunk into the firey pits of H E double hockey sticks.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: stromboli on September 21, 2013, 09:48:58 AM
And they, of course, will see this as a positive move for Islam and will influence people to join their religion.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: Solitary on September 21, 2013, 09:49:07 AM
I think I would have told them Allahu Akbar!---and left.  :roll:  Solitary
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: viocjit on September 21, 2013, 12:01:12 PM
There are others sources who confirm the authenticity of this event :

1.BBC NEWS (Mainstream British media) : //http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24186780
2.CNN (Mainstream American TV channel) : //http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/21/world/africa/kenya-mall-gunbattle/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
3.EURONEWS (Mainstream European TV channel) : //http://www.euronews.com/2013/09/21/at-least-15-killed-in-nairobi-attack/
4.Al-Jazeera (Mainstream Qatari TV channel) : //http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/09/201392110386655370.html
5.Press TV (Mainstream Iranian TV channel) : //http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/21/325229/kenya-shooting-death-toll-hits-22/
6.Xinhua Press Agency (Mainstream Chinese Press Agency) : //http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/africa/2013-09/21/c_132738154.htm
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: billhilly on September 21, 2013, 12:18:26 PM
It's probably the NRA's fault.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: SGOS on September 21, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Is it OK to say you are a Muslim to avoid being shot?  I'm not really into the martyr thing, myself.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: billhilly on September 21, 2013, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: "SGOS"Is it OK to say you are a Muslim to avoid being shot?  I'm not really into the martyr thing, myself.


I know I'd give it a try.  Be my luck I'd have bacon breath though.........
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: StupidWiz on September 21, 2013, 07:10:34 PM
Quote from: "SGOS"Is it OK to say you are a Muslim to avoid being shot?  I'm not really into the martyr thing, myself.
As long as you keep shouting AllahuAkbar, you'll be fine... I guess
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: stromboli on September 21, 2013, 09:59:53 PM
I have a beard. Just might pull it off.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: Jason78 on September 22, 2013, 05:25:52 AM
Quote from: "stromboli"I have a beard. Just might pull it off.
Wouldn't shaving be less painful?
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: LikelyToBreak on September 22, 2013, 10:29:54 AM
Jason78, good one!  =D>  :lol:
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: Aupmanyav on September 27, 2013, 11:33:54 AM
Quote from: "Solitary"I think I would have told them Allahu Akbar!---and left.  :roll:  Solitary
They ask you to recite 'kalimas', and check.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: Solitary on September 27, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
I have a beard, so I'm safe. :P  
QuoteThere is no god but Allah, [and] Muhammad [peace be upon him] is the messenger of Allah.

I bear witness that (there is) no god except Allah; One is He, no partner hath He, and I bear witness that Muhammad (Sall-Allahu Alayhi wa Sallam) is His Servant and Messenger.

Exalted is Allah, and praise be to Allah, and there is no deity except Allah, and Allah is the Greatest. And there is no might nor power except in Allah, the Most High, the Most Great.

(There is) no god except Allah - One is He, no partners hath He. His is the Dominion, and His is the Praise. He gives life and causes death, and He is Living, who will not die, never. He of Majesty and Munificence. Within His Hand is (all) good. And He is, upon everything, Able (to exert His Will).

:"I seek forgiveness from Allah, my Lord, from every sin I committed knowingly or unknowingly, secretly or openly, and I turn towards Him from the sin that I know and from the sin that I do not know. Certainly You, You (are) the knower of the hidden things and the Concealer (of) the mistakes and the Forgiver (of) the sins. And (there is) no power and no strength except from Allah, the Most High, the Most Great".

(O Allah! Certainly I seek protection with You from, that I associate partner with You anything and I know it. And I seek forgiveness from You for that I do not know it. I repented from it and I made myself free from disbelief and polytheism and the falsehood and the back-biting and the innovation and the tell-tales and the bad deeds and the blame and the disobedience, all of them. And I submit and I say (there is) none worthy of worship except Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.)
If they don't understand English I guess I'm screwed though.  :shock:  8-[  :-&  Am I the only one that realizes that being forgiven for everything you do is really a bad message and encourages violence and anything goes in society?  Screw religious superstitious BS!  :evil: Solitary
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: Valigarmander on September 29, 2013, 12:22:05 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013 ... s/2882299/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/09/27/mall-victims-tortured-maimed-in-al-shabab-attacks/2882299/)

QuoteKenyan shopping mall for four days tortured, maimed and mutilated some of their 67 victims, leaving a tattered scene of ghoulish, gruesome remains that investigators likened to scenes from a horror movie.

Hostages were left hanging and had their eyes gouged, others were dismembered. Others had their throats slashed or were castrated and had fingers amputated, according to media reports quoting soldiers, medical personnel and investigators sorting through the rubble of the collapsed mall.

doctor, said all of the victims were mutilated. Britain's Daily Mail reported children stashed in refrigerators with knives in their bodies.

"You find people with hooks hanging from the roof. They removed eyes, ears, nose. Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers," said the doctor. The Star said he declined to give his name.

Some of the terrorists' bodies also appeared to have been burned by fellow extremists to protect their identities.

Allegations that hostages had been raped and others beheaded could not be verified, although those claims have circulated since Kenyan military forces ended the four-day mall siege earlier this week.

More than 70 people remain missing, but it could take up to a week before the mall, much of it in ruins after the collapse of three floors, is thoroughly searched.

Investigators says evidence shows Somali-based al-Shabab had planned the attack for up to a year, renting a shop in the mall and posing as businessmen, then moving weapons and supplies inside the mall weeks before the attack.

Up to 15 terrorists are believed to have conducted the attacks. Five were killed and at least 10 were arrested.

There's speculation that Samantha Lewthwaite, a Brit dubbed the "white widow,'' was involved in the attack, although Kenyan authorities say there's no evidence she was in Nairobi. Interpol had earlier issued an arrest warrant for Lewthwaite based on prior terrorist attacks. She was married to suicide bomber Germaine Lindsay, who killed 26 people on a London train in 2005, and in 2011 was linked to a Islamic terrorist cell in Kenya.

Al-Shabab is warning Kenya could be hit by more bloodshed if its military isn't withdrawn from southern Somalia. Kenyan troops entered the country in 2011 to help the Somali government's fight against al-Shabab.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: baronvonrort on September 30, 2013, 09:14:26 AM
Quote from: "stromboli"And they, of course, will see this as a positive move for Islam and will influence people to join their religion.

If you dont like Islam you must be an Islamophobe.

Men are allowed 4 wives and sex slaves are halal, as long as the girls are not muslims.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace Once Again-15+ Dead, More Coming
Post by: RaymanZ on October 07, 2013, 04:59:09 AM
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