I'm a heathen too! I'm Vulcan from AF.org. If anyone knows me from over there, come say howdy. I like familiar faces.
For the rest of you, I'm a misanthropic, recluse lover of wisdom, agnostic atheist, and freethinker extraordinaire. I've lurked in your philosophy subforums for a bit, but recently decided to poke my head up and say "Hi."
I like theists too. Not an antitheist at all. I HATE CREATIONISM IN SCIENCE CLASSROOMS WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!!!!!! But people who believe in God? Nah. Live and let live. That's what I say.
Quote from: Vulcan on April 16, 2018, 10:03:59 PM
I'm a heathen too! I'm Vulcan from AF.org. If anyone knows me from over there, come say howdy. I like familiar faces.
For the rest of you, I'm a misanthropic, recluse lover of wisdom, agnostic atheist, and freethinker extraordinaire. I've lurked in your philosophy subforums for a bit, but recently decided to poke my head up and say "Hi."
I like theists too. Not an antitheist at all. I HATE CREATIONISM IN SCIENCE CLASSROOMS WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!!!!!! But people who believe in God? Nah. Live and let live. That's what I say.
We are brothers from different mothers ;-)
Hello!
You're from .org, but you better not also be a borg. Fuck the borg
Resistance is futile, pickel. I've been assimilated too.
Welcome vulcan, to our little band of heatens.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 16, 2018, 11:41:09 PM
Hello!
You're from .org, but you better not also be a borg. Fuck the borg
WE ARE NOT THE BORG. And you will not be assimilated. Your likeness will not be added to our own, which is unfortunate, because you seem pretty cool.
Hello
Welcome, Vulcan.
Say..................is that your statue standing in Birmingham, Ala?
Welcome, and congrats on being bipostal.
Quote from: Vulcan on April 16, 2018, 10:03:59 PM
I HATE CREATIONISM
I don't hate creationism in classrooms so much as the people that poison the minds of young children with it.
If there was a hell, there'd be a special place in it for the adults that damage the critical thinking faculties of children.
Hey Vulcan! glad to have you amongst us, we'll try to make your time here enjoyable.
Quote from: Vulcan on April 16, 2018, 10:03:59 PM
I like theists too. Not an antitheist at all. I HATE CREATIONISM IN SCIENCE CLASSROOMS WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING!!!!!! But people who believe in God? Nah. Live and let live. That's what I say.
I doubt anyone would object to live and let live. Though as far as religion goes, it has a tendency to extend from people's private lives into public life.
Creationism is a perfect example of private beliefs extending from churches into private religious schools into public schools. And similarly, private beliefs extending from preachers to laity to Congress.
If these beliefs stayed 100% private, I would have no problem with them. Unfortunately, that isn't the world we live in. (at least in the USA)
Quote from: Jason78 on April 17, 2018, 01:17:59 PM
I don't hate creationism in classrooms so much as the people that poison the minds of young children with it.
If there was a hell, there'd be a special place in it for the adults that damage the critical thinking faculties of children.
Those who teach creationism poison the the minds of the next generation. And I don't mean ST:TNG...
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 17, 2018, 01:55:32 PM
Though as far as religion goes, it has a tendency to extend from people's private lives into public life.
And this is the most pernicious problem with religion, the idea that people who don't share their fantasy world should have to live by their rules anyway. I once terminated an online debate on equal marriage, after an opponent finally admitted that his objection was religious and not legal, by pointing out two things:
- His church doesn't get to make rules for non-adherents any more than non-adherents get to determine his church's teachings (outside of the obvious public health and safety rules applied to all communities, faith-based or secular); and,
- By his reasoning, it would be perfectly legitimate for a hypothetical future Muslim majority in this country to force him to live under Sharia lawâ€"or even for another Christian church to object to his marrying outside of his particular church because they don't allow it, even if his does.
The tradeoff for minimal government interference in religious activity (even when they
need some interfering) is that their dogma is not to be mistaken for public law. I'm sure we can all imagine the screeching and yowling if local, state and federal authorities interfered in church activities even a tenth as much as churches interfere in the public sphere.
If was fortunate, that in 1787 ... the former American colonies, didn't all share the same church aka Anglican. Otherwise Episcopalian would have been our State religion, just as it was in England. There was no way the colonies could have agreed on a single Church, at that time. This is a consequence of many American settlers being dissidents or religious fanatics ... exiled from England. Maryland was an attempt to exile all the Catholics here.
Of course Jefferson thought we might all be Deists by the time he passed ... but the opposite happened, in a non-establishment country, freedom led to lots of free church foundings.
Of course dominant Churches in America have tried to extend their dominion ... the Catholic Church in particular, and later Southern Baptist.
It's like Highlander - there can be only one - as far as religions are concerned.
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 19, 2018, 01:20:01 PM
It's like Highlander - there can be only one - as far as religions are concerned.
Fortunately Highlander is fictional, either in the "natural" hero mode of the original, or the "alien" hero mode of the sequel.
I wonder what became of Vulcan...
Quote from: Cavebear on April 24, 2018, 02:10:15 AM
I wonder what became of Vulcan...
In one universe it still exists, in another parallel universe it was blown up ...
Maybe he was waiting for your tea advice ;-)
Quote from: Cavebear on April 24, 2018, 02:10:15 AM
I wonder what became of Vulcan...
I'm still here. I just don't internet daily.
Quote from: Vulcan on May 04, 2018, 09:20:51 PM
I'm still here. I just don't internet daily.
That's cool. Some us have jobs, some of have lives ;-)