Theism

[Contemporary Protestant]

50-50 for any diety
1-infinity for a specific one

The conversation is about basic theism and why it is illogical

[Nam]

50-50 for any diety
1-infinity for a specific one

Moving the goalpost.

The conversation is about basic theism and why it is illogical

No, it's not.

-Nam

[Contemporary Protestant]

Read the whole thread

Edit

I never advocated a specific faith, this thread is about generic theism

[Simon Moon]

The conversation is about basic theism and why it is illogical

It is illogical because there are no logical arguments that support it.

Believing something that is not based in demonstrable, repeatable and falsifiable evidence is illogical by default.

[Contemporary Protestant]

Could you elaborate and explain why only scientific evidence is valid?

[Ferrin]

Could you elaborate and explain why only scientific evidence is valid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

"Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge"[1]) is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.[2][3] In an older and closely related meaning, "science" also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied. A practitioner of science is known as a scientist."

Key words being rational and reliable.

[Contemporary Protestant]

Why not anecdotak evidence

[the_antithesis]

Anecdotes are not evidence.

[Contemporary Protestant]

Why not, they are valid in a court of law

[Nam]

Why not anecdotak evidence

You do realize "anecdotal" literally means "unreliable" information; "hearsay"?

Therefore, it can't be evidence.

-Nam

[TrueStory]

Why not, they are valid in a court of law

Where is there a court case that has out of space/time as evidence?

[Solitary]

Most atheists are not atheists because of science, they believe in science because it has been based on reliable evidence, religion is not on any reliable evidence. As to religion being logical when it is based a superstitious nonsense from a book with illogical statements and contradiction, magical thinking, and belief in real magic that has been shown to not be true makes it illogical. There is no logical attributes of any god, much less God, with whom the Scriptures describe as being that are not contradictory. All loving, destroys most of mankind that displeases him whom He created. A God that is all powerful needs a rib to make woman, sits back doing nothing for His children while they are suffering, and creates a hell for those that don't placate Him. Brings death to every living thing but Himself if they don't have Holy Water on their heads. He's so powerful He can't make a world heaven for everyone but those who believe in Him? If you can't see how a belief in a deity is not logical, then you are irrational and delusional. Solitary

[stromboli]

Anecdote:

an account regarded as unreliable or hearsay.

mmm nope. Hearsay is not evidence. Look at every religion. Every one has a set of rules, principles, dogmas, descriptions of god, attributes of god and so forth. Theism is a general belief that a god exists but offers no specific conditions. But the condition that does exist is still that of being a supernatural being. Supernature is undefinable by natural laws, i.e. myth. So theism can be belief in the tooth fairy or FSM just as much as anything else you consider to be god.

Same rule applies. When it becomes definable in natural terms, it is no longer god. So nothing changes. You are still either believing by faith or not believing.

[Simon Moon]

Why not anecdotak evidence

There are 1000's of people you can go talk to today that claim they were abducted by aliens. They are being sincere and believe they are being truthful.

Is their anecdotal evidence reliable? 

[the_antithesis]

Why not, they are valid in a court of law

No they are not.

Shut up, you ignorant putz.