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| Moloth wrote: | yay! i'm an incendiary!
MMM!! mmfmmfmf! MM M mmmMMmm Ff!!!
sorry.. just blowing off some steam..
the reason religion survives is that because, as far as memes go, it has a very strong 'survival instinct'.
it is mandatory that you BE your religion, or you are punished, in this life and/or the next. not only that it is encouraged that you have children.. but that will believe the religion and then pass that meme down to the next generation, ad naseum.
when the religion is attacked, it defends itself through violence, calls of intolerance, outright lies and enforced ignorance of the truth (which is that religion is not true).
its like the common cold... its robust, it mutates quickly, its spreads like wildfire and it replicates in various ways.
it is, indeed, a mind virus. |
fear and hatred always springs from ignorance, you lack of knowledge on the subject or your generalization of such purely shows your ill tempted try at mocking the unkown 
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Newman, i'd be more annoyed with you if were a threat in the slightest or at least a skilled troll. you're just kinda... sad. like the fat guy at a party that you know is going home alone, despite the fact that he's making an ass out of himself in order to get people's attention.
you're the AF's Chris Farley.
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Newman
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | Newman, i'd be more annoyed with you if were a threat in the slightest or at least a skilled troll. you're just kinda... sad. like the fat guy at a party that you know is going home alone, despite the fact that he's making an ass out of himself in order to get people's attention.
you're the AF's Chris Farley. |
just amazing....how long did it take you to think of that? was it in between blowing your hair, or shaping your eyebrows?
Moloth, your a joke
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Newman wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | Newman, i'd be more annoyed with you if were a threat in the slightest or at least a skilled troll. you're just kinda... sad. like the fat guy at a party that you know is going home alone, despite the fact that he's making an ass out of himself in order to get people's attention.
you're the AF's Chris Farley. |
just amazing....how long did it take you to think of that? was it in between blowing your hair, or shaping your eyebrows?
Moloth, your a joke |
maybe, but at least i don;t base my worldview over the delusion that i can fly or that invisible bums are looking out for me. 
i can prove what i believe. can you?
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Newman
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| Moloth wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | Newman, i'd be more annoyed with you if were a threat in the slightest or at least a skilled troll. you're just kinda... sad. like the fat guy at a party that you know is going home alone, despite the fact that he's making an ass out of himself in order to get people's attention.
you're the AF's Chris Farley. |
just amazing....how long did it take you to think of that? was it in between blowing your hair, or shaping your eyebrows?
Moloth, your a joke |
maybe, but at least i don;t base my worldview over the delusion that i can fly or that invisible bums are looking out for me.
i can prove what i believe. can you? |
maybe? nahuu, ahu, nah LOL, your just a joke
the old try to get someone proletysing, then run to Nimits, ban him ban him! lol
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Newman
"fear and hatred always springs from ignorance"
I disagree, fear often springs from knowledge. I fear falling from a tree because I know that something bad will happen when I hit the ground, and pain will follow. Hatred also, if someone were to kill someone dear to me, I might hate that person. Fear and hatred are totally separate concepts though, one is a self defense mechanism, and the other is a prejudicial emotive construct. But instead of reflexively attacking Moloth, why not engage in the discussion at hand?
Sincerely, Verum
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| Moloth wrote: | yay! i'm an incendiary!
MMM!! mmfmmfmf! MM M mmmMMmm Ff!!!
sorry.. just blowing off some steam..
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| Verum wrote: | Newman
"fear and hatred always springs from ignorance"
I disagree, fear often springs from knowledge. I fear falling from a tree because I know that something bad will happen when I hit the ground, and pain will follow. Hatred also, if someone were to kill someone dear to me, I might hate that person. Fear and hatred are totally separate concepts though, one is a self defense mechanism, and the other is a prejudicial emotive construct. But instead of reflexively attacking Moloth, why not engage in the discussion at hand?
Sincerely, Verum |
Verum,
attacking Moloth? please...
but yes, I am here for inteligent discussion not for taking about where I can get my eyebrow shaped up and the best blow dryer out there.
you can hate and fear from ignorance, I see it here with some, not all, but you see it. They have no idea what religion is an the differences between each so they generalize and make hatred comments, to me that is purely fear as their arguments for this hatred comments is "well religion kills people", yes it has happen, so do cars, airplanes and criminals, dogs, animals...you get the point.
on the thread issue,
why does religion survive, well I will try to give you an unbiased answer.
One of the reasons is phsycological, i agree, people have a sense of well being, others simply like to belong, some hide there as to go unotice, other are simply scared of Hell, therefore join the churches and go from Sunday to Sunday and pretend they are true Christians (some are) just giving you a fair answer. Some are simply born into the religions. yes with any group or institution you have the mix of all kinds of reasons, no big find.
Now, why do I honestly think religion has survived, my personal answer is because its real. Once the Lord touches your heart, you have no reason not to believe, you receive instant assurance that He is real.
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Moloth
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| Newman wrote: | | Verum wrote: | Newman
"fear and hatred always springs from ignorance"
I disagree, fear often springs from knowledge. I fear falling from a tree because I know that something bad will happen when I hit the ground, and pain will follow. Hatred also, if someone were to kill someone dear to me, I might hate that person. Fear and hatred are totally separate concepts though, one is a self defense mechanism, and the other is a prejudicial emotive construct. But instead of reflexively attacking Moloth, why not engage in the discussion at hand?
Sincerely, Verum |
Verum,
attacking Moloth? please...
but yes, I am here for inteligent discussion not for taking about where I can get my eyebrow shaped up and the best blow dryer out there.
you can hate and fear from ignorance, I see it here with some, not all, but you see it. They have no idea what religion is an the differences between each so they generalize and make hatred comments, to me that is purely fear as their arguments for this hatred comments is "well religion kills people", yes it has happen, so do cars, airplanes and criminals, dogs, animals...you get the point.
on the thread issue,
why does religion survive, well I will try to give you an unbiased answer.
One of the reasons is phsycological, i agree, people have a sense of well being, others simply like to belong, some hide there as to go unotice, other are simply scared of Hell, therefore join the churches and go from Sunday to Sunday and pretend they are true Christians (some are) just giving you a fair answer. Some are simply born into the religions. yes with any group or institution you have the mix of all kinds of reasons, no big find.
Now, why do I honestly think religion has survived, my personal answer is because its real. Once the Lord touches your heart, you have no reason not to believe, you receive instant assurance that He is real. |
Christianity isn't the first or only religion. you just kinda admitted that Islam, Taoism, buddhism, Hindu, etc... is true.
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Newman
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Verum wrote: | Newman
"fear and hatred always springs from ignorance"
I disagree, fear often springs from knowledge. I fear falling from a tree because I know that something bad will happen when I hit the ground, and pain will follow. Hatred also, if someone were to kill someone dear to me, I might hate that person. Fear and hatred are totally separate concepts though, one is a self defense mechanism, and the other is a prejudicial emotive construct. But instead of reflexively attacking Moloth, why not engage in the discussion at hand?
Sincerely, Verum |
Verum,
attacking Moloth? please...
but yes, I am here for inteligent discussion not for taking about where I can get my eyebrow shaped up and the best blow dryer out there.
you can hate and fear from ignorance, I see it here with some, not all, but you see it. They have no idea what religion is an the differences between each so they generalize and make hatred comments, to me that is purely fear as their arguments for this hatred comments is "well religion kills people", yes it has happen, so do cars, airplanes and criminals, dogs, animals...you get the point.
on the thread issue,
why does religion survive, well I will try to give you an unbiased answer.
One of the reasons is phsycological, i agree, people have a sense of well being, others simply like to belong, some hide there as to go unotice, other are simply scared of Hell, therefore join the churches and go from Sunday to Sunday and pretend they are true Christians (some are) just giving you a fair answer. Some are simply born into the religions. yes with any group or institution you have the mix of all kinds of reasons, no big find.
Now, why do I honestly think religion has survived, my personal answer is because its real. Once the Lord touches your heart, you have no reason not to believe, you receive instant assurance that He is real. |
Christianity isn't the first or only religion. you just kinda admitted that Islam, Taoism, buddhism, Hindu, etc... is true. |
read DA, your eagerness to see your post is faster then your mind
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read DA, your eagerness to see your post is faster then your mind |
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Verum,
attacking Moloth? please...
but yes, I am here for inteligent discussion not for taking about where I can get my eyebrow shaped up and the best blow dryer out there.
you can hate and fear from ignorance, I see it here with some, not all, but you see it. They have no idea what religion is an the differences between each so they generalize and make hatred comments, to me that is purely fear as their arguments for this hatred comments is "well religion kills people", yes it has happen, so do cars, airplanes and criminals, dogs, animals...you get the point.
on the thread issue,
why does religion survive, well I will try to give you an unbiased answer.
One of the reasons is phsycological, i agree, people have a sense of well being, others simply like to belong, some hide there as to go unotice, other are simply scared of Hell, therefore join the churches and go from Sunday to Sunday and pretend they are true Christians (some are) just giving you a fair answer. Some are simply born into the religions. yes with any group or institution you have the mix of all kinds of reasons, no big find.
Now, why do I honestly think religion has survived, my personal answer is because its real. Once the Lord touches your heart, you have no reason not to believe, you receive instant assurance that He is real. |
It seemed like an antagonistic post to me... but I don't know the history between you two.
You personal answer is because it is real? Once the lord touches your heart....? I see why Moloth has some disdain for you. If you can't put aside your faith to discuss rationally the basis for religion in the first place and its continued prevalence then why post at all? Just to ignite Moloth the Incendiary? Because it is real is not a rational answer. And the lord touching your heart...? You might need some penicillin.
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Newman
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| Moloth wrote: | | Newman wrote: |
read DA, your eagerness to see your post is faster then your mind |
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ah sure D=Dumb and A = Ass
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| Newman wrote: | | but yes, I am here for inteligent discussion |
What a joker.
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Newman
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Verum wrote: | | Newman wrote: |
Verum,
attacking Moloth? please...
but yes, I am here for inteligent discussion not for taking about where I can get my eyebrow shaped up and the best blow dryer out there.
you can hate and fear from ignorance, I see it here with some, not all, but you see it. They have no idea what religion is an the differences between each so they generalize and make hatred comments, to me that is purely fear as their arguments for this hatred comments is "well religion kills people", yes it has happen, so do cars, airplanes and criminals, dogs, animals...you get the point.
on the thread issue,
why does religion survive, well I will try to give you an unbiased answer.
One of the reasons is phsycological, i agree, people have a sense of well being, others simply like to belong, some hide there as to go unotice, other are simply scared of Hell, therefore join the churches and go from Sunday to Sunday and pretend they are true Christians (some are) just giving you a fair answer. Some are simply born into the religions. yes with any group or institution you have the mix of all kinds of reasons, no big find.
Now, why do I honestly think religion has survived, my personal answer is because its real. Once the Lord touches your heart, you have no reason not to believe, you receive instant assurance that He is real. |
It seemed like an antagonistic post to me... but I don't know the history between you two.
You personal answer is because it is real? Once the lord touches your heart....? I see why Moloth has some disdain for you. If you can't put aside your faith to discuss rationally the basis for religion in the first place and its continued prevalence then why post at all? Just to ignite Moloth the Incendiary? Because it is real is not a rational answer. And the lord touching your heart...? You might need some penicillin. |
Verum,
with respect, did you miss what I wrote prior to that? was that not rational? I believe I put my faith on the table for that
*points at Bold words*
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