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| Newman wrote: | | Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Quote: | | I have been trying to come up with an explanation for religions survival, and its pervasiveness in society |
brainwashing and fear thats the explanation |
with much respect, if you take this forum as your demographcs, which should and would be to your advantage, the fear is not being spread by the Theist, but the Atheist |
and how do you come to this conclusion?
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| Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Quote: | | I have been trying to come up with an explanation for religions survival, and its pervasiveness in society |
brainwashing and fear thats the explanation |
with much respect, if you take this forum as your demographcs, which should and would be to your advantage, the fear is not being spread by the Theist, but the Atheist |
and how do you come to this conclusion? |
simply by adding all the hatred writtings simply based on beliefs you get that clear observation and conclusion.
isnt fear mostly fill with hatred
PS. althought I give you props for the IHOP cook part  favorite rest to have breakfast
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at least someone agrees with my view on politics. I suppose you could say the cleaners and cooks etc are gods way of providing help for the priests, but they get paid for it im sure. Im just against the idea of churchs and how they manipulate peoples thoughts, i mean in school my religion teacher completely ignores anything i say that might conflict with what he is saying and instead moves on the subject. You see children aged 11 swearing a lifes oath to something they barely comprehend and then pass this little knowledge and blind following onto their children who are brainwashed once more and so this continues, that is why religion has survived for as long as it has however if people could only broaden their minds ever so slightly they would see the gaps in it all, but instead they target young children and brainwash them to a point where they are will to fight for they're false believes.
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Like people have said above religion still exists because of:
1. Power
1a. Money
2. If people think something is good, important and true they are almost helpless in wanting to share it.
3. It's cognitively self-protecting (see cognitive dissonance from part 2)
4. It quickly evolves to suit changing needs/fears.
5. It's a social constant (the church structure)
I'm probably missing some other good ones that could be added to the list.
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Hit_me_up024
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| Newman wrote: | | Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Quote: | | I have been trying to come up with an explanation for religions survival, and its pervasiveness in society |
brainwashing and fear thats the explanation |
with much respect, if you take this forum as your demographcs, which should and would be to your advantage, the fear is not being spread by the Theist, but the Atheist |
and how do you come to this conclusion? |
simply by adding all the hatred writtings simply based on beliefs you get that clear observation and conclusion.
isnt fear mostly fill with hatred
PS. althought I give you props for the IHOP cook part favorite rest to have breakfast |
yeah but if you cannot hold your own in this forum you have no place here. your going to run into assholes your whole life. and fear and hatred are two different things. I meant fear in retrospect to the afterlife rather than being plant food that type of fear
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| aracanid wrote: | | at least someone agrees with my view on politics. I suppose you could say the cleaners and cooks etc are gods way of providing help for the priests, but they get paid for it im sure. Im just against the idea of churchs and how they manipulate peoples thoughts, i mean in school my religion teacher completely ignores anything i say that might conflict with what he is saying and instead moves on the subject. You see children aged 11 swearing a lifes oath to something they barely comprehend and then pass this little knowledge and blind following onto their children who are brainwashed once more and so this continues, that is why religion has survived for as long as it has however if people could only broaden their minds ever so slightly they would see the gaps in it all, but instead they target young children and brainwash them to a point where they are will to fight for they're false believes. |
I surely dont condone fighting for a belief, with my children I have chosen to show them both sides and letting them go on their chosen way, yes I am sured my views have in some way help their decision, but I am quite open to show all both sides for their rational choice
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| Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | Hit_me_up024 wrote: | | Quote: | | I have been trying to come up with an explanation for religions survival, and its pervasiveness in society |
brainwashing and fear thats the explanation |
with much respect, if you take this forum as your demographcs, which should and would be to your advantage, the fear is not being spread by the Theist, but the Atheist |
and how do you come to this conclusion? |
simply by adding all the hatred writtings simply based on beliefs you get that clear observation and conclusion.
isnt fear mostly fill with hatred
PS. althought I give you props for the IHOP cook part favorite rest to have breakfast |
yeah but if you cannot hold your own in this forum you have no place here. your going to run into assholes your whole life. and fear and hatred are two different things. I meant fear in retrospect to the afterlife rather than being plant food that type of fear |
I agree, and no I dont mind the hatred, as for obvious reason is not taken seriously, just making the point
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fear is like a bribe for churches, worship this and you live for ever. Its trying to put meaning to what would seem like a pointless existence, thats what they are afraid of.
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| aracanid wrote: | | fear is like a bribe for churches, worship this and you live for ever. Its trying to put meaning to what would seem like a pointless existence, thats what they are afraid of. |
well I see your point and respect it, but religion this days is far from what it used to be as far as intolerance, yet the Atheist seem far less tolerant of anything different to their belief or non- believes than most all Theist that I know, let alone the ones here
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| Newman wrote: | | aracanid wrote: | | at least someone agrees with my view on politics. I suppose you could say the cleaners and cooks etc are gods way of providing help for the priests, but they get paid for it im sure. Im just against the idea of churchs and how they manipulate peoples thoughts, i mean in school my religion teacher completely ignores anything i say that might conflict with what he is saying and instead moves on the subject. You see children aged 11 swearing a lifes oath to something they barely comprehend and then pass this little knowledge and blind following onto their children who are brainwashed once more and so this continues, that is why religion has survived for as long as it has however if people could only broaden their minds ever so slightly they would see the gaps in it all, but instead they target young children and brainwash them to a point where they are will to fight for they're false believes. |
I surely dont condone fighting for a belief, with my children I have chosen to show them both sides and letting them go on their chosen way, yes I am sured my views have in some way help their decision, but I am quite open to show all both sides for their rational choice |
then you probably the smartist person i know. My parents are religious but forced nothing down my throat, instead my school done that and turned me the completely other way. In the likes of belfast or other areas in northern ireland people are brought up with a hatred for those who worship another false belief. Mainly catholics and protestants, even though the majority dont even know the differences between each of the two nor the simalarities, once again, blindly following other. Thats what i meant by the fighting. Im sure this exists in other places outside NI, sunni and shiite muslims for example.
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| Newman wrote: | | aracanid wrote: | | fear is like a bribe for churches, worship this and you live for ever. Its trying to put meaning to what would seem like a pointless existence, thats what they are afraid of. |
well I see your point and respect it, but religion this days is far from what it used to be as far as intolerance, yet the Atheist seem far less tolerant of anything different to their belief or non- believes than most all Theist that I know, let alone the ones here |
thats probs because its already rooted now because they now simply brainwash children. Where you live it may be different but here you either go to a catholic school, or a protestant school. Your academic life is affected by which religion you choose. If you choose to go to a school without a set religion then you are choosing the worst school in the area, which is usually where drop-outs and people against rules end up.
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| aracanid wrote: | | Newman wrote: | | aracanid wrote: | | fear is like a bribe for churches, worship this and you live for ever. Its trying to put meaning to what would seem like a pointless existence, thats what they are afraid of. |
well I see your point and respect it, but religion this days is far from what it used to be as far as intolerance, yet the Atheist seem far less tolerant of anything different to their belief or non- believes than most all Theist that I know, let alone the ones here |
thats probs because its already rooted now because they now simply brainwash children. Where you live it may be different but here you either go to a catholic school, or a protestant school. Your academic life is affected by which religion you choose. |
really, no private schools without religious guide?
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its all an atheist conspiracy to sell books by Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris.
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there is one, but it is the worst school in the area and is usually where rule breakers and drop-outs end up because it has no rules and probs the lowest grades in the area.
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