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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:57 am Post subject:
It's simply the entire activist package. I don't think I can distill one element.
I've stated in the past that one thing I enjoy doing is taking evangelical arguments against homosexuality and substituting "homosexual" and "homosexuality" with "Christian" and "Christianity". The results are amusing. I shall do so now:
"I have nothing against Christians, but do they have to advertise it?"
That best sums up my attitude... _________________ “I think it’s also important for the President to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
-- George W. Bush on Clinton's involvement in Kosovo, 1999
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject:
ChrissyFos wrote:
Christians have such a hard time dealing with the truth, so they redefine it. They lie. They speak for god as if they are god. God doesn't like this, god doesn't condone that, god doesn't want us to do this or god is unhappy about that...and you know this how?
Quoted for emphasis.
They lie to themselves to achieve a result they desperately want..(immortality, protective father figure, resolution of natural human guilt, etc.). Rather than confront this self delusion, the evangelical finds it necessary to feed or strengthen the delusion (and thereby attempt to rid themselves of self doubt) with the conviction of numbers and the vocalization of this lie. "If I'm going to drown then I'm taking as many as I can with me", mentality. _________________ Fundamentalism: "The hallmark of the collective non-indivduated life" - C.G. Jung
"All our problems arise from man's ceaseless attempts to impose his fictions on the natural world" - Otto Rank
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject:
rickcopeland648 wrote:
I've stated in the past that one thing I enjoy doing is taking evangelical arguments against homosexuality and substituting "homosexual" and "homosexuality" with "Christian" and "Christianity". The results are amusing. I shall do so now:
"I have nothing against Christians, but do they have to advertise it?"
or "My neighbor Jim is a Christian..........not that there's anything wrong with that" _________________
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject:
I think I have the same root problem with evangelicals as I do with any people/group of people who define their personality by a single dimension.
For example, I had a friend come out of the closet. I didn't care - I still don't care. I don't care what someone else's sexual desires are at all as long as they are performed with a consenting adult.
However, that particular friend's personality was, for about a year, COMPLETELY defined by his being gay. It was almost more of an act of outwardly doing all of the cliche "gay" things than whatever he did in private (and again, I still don't care - and no, I'm not gay bashing). Fortunately he eventually turned back into a person with a multi-faceted personality and became tolerable again (and yes, he was still gay - I'm a bit paranoid this will be construed as gay-bashing but I assure you it is NOT).
The same thing applies to a variety of people, and evangelicals are the worst of the worst. If someone is an evangelical - and they know what I think - there is simply no reason we shouldn't be able to discuss if we liked a certain book or not. There's no reason for them to evangelize 24/7 on every topic that comes up. It's annoying as all hell.
There is no relation between what I had for lunch and Jesus.
There is no relation between "Huck Finn" and Jesus.
Etc. _________________ The constitution does not guarantee the right to own guns for sporting events. It guarantees it for the right to overthrow an oppresive government.
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: What annoys you most about Evangelical Christians?
St3vo wrote:
What annoys you most about Evangelicals?
They wouldn't really be a concern of mine if they hadn't wormed their slimy way into my government and schools. I'm very fearful of a coming theocracy run by the evangelical right, and I fear for my life and the lives of other people who won't conform to their agenda of power. I think the Muslims and Christians both want to rule the world, but only one can be successful in that endeavor, so a global religious war may soon be fought over who will continue to shear the sheep. _________________ "True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance."
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"the universe is under no obligation to be easy for us to comprehend."
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:
What annoys me is the Jesus-this and Jesus-that and Jesus-does-so-much-for-me talk that some of them seem to spout off at every opportunity, yet their lives and behavior are no better than anyone else's. If Jesus does so much for you, then why aren't you rich? Why do you have so many problems, why do you get sick, why do you still have a smoking habit that you can't quit? Can't you just pray to your bestest friend and he'll make you quit smoking, or give you money, or provide a new house, or whatever? I wish they would just shut up already!
To be fair, though, I don't usually know what most people believe unless they mention it, and that doesn't happen often even with Christians. I deal with more Christians online than I do in real life, and those are the ones that annoy me more with their blatant ignorance of everything scientific. I have no science background, either, but I can at least keep up on the latest discoveries, read National Geographic, etc. so I have some understanding of evolution and biology. Every time a Christian says, "OMGz u can't realy beleve we all came from nothing!!!11!!lololl!!!" I want to eat their face!
Oh, and "God loves everyone, but he lets children starve to death because he gave humans free will!" drives me batty, as well. _________________ Kryten: Don't you believe that God exists in all things? Aren't you a Pantheist?
Lister: Yeah, I just don't think it applies to kitchen utensils. I'm not a Fryingpantheist.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject:
If the question is about annoyance, rather than what makes them evil, I'd have to say the braindead radioactive smile that shows they're born again.
I've had a few friends 'convert' while I knew them and it was like the end of Flowers For Algernon, when Charlie Gordon's intelligence started to wear off.
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Oh, and "God loves everyone, but he lets children starve to death because he gave humans free will!" drives me batty, as well.
"Disease exists because of original sin."
My habitual response is: Go to the children's oncology ward of the nearest hospital and tell the kids it's their fault they have cancer. _________________ K Michau
Now this religion happens to prevail/Until by that one it is overthrown/Because men dare not live with men alone/But always with another fairy tale.
al-Ma'arri, Syrian Poet, died 1057
You deny the existence of 999 alleged Gods. I merely deny one more - yours.
John MacKinnon Robertson, "Godism" 1896
I'd have to say the braindead radioactive smile that shows they're born again.
You can see'em comin' can't ya?! Goofy grin, glazed eyes and over dressed for the weather. A buy-bull under one arm bristling with post-a-notes, suits and ties, long dresses with long sleeves in the middle of summer in Oklahoma. You can pick them out of the crowd.
I think everyone has covered what pisses me off most. The proselytizing, blatant non-thinking drones ect.
But HBA hit the nail on the fucking head...
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the fact that they think it's persecution to not allow them to impose their views on everyone else.
They can't keep their noses out of other peoples crotches.
Moloth I thought I was the only Joe Cartoon fan here. (Joe and I have the same birthday) Are you a member of the Church of Joe?
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:40 am Post subject:
Nimitz wrote:
misho said:
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I'd have to say the braindead radioactive smile that shows they're born again.
You can see'em comin' can't ya?! Goofy grin, glazed eyes and over dressed for the weather. A buy-bull under one arm bristling with post-a-notes, suits and ties, long dresses with long sleeves in the middle of summer in Oklahoma. You can pick them out of the crowd.
I used to work with a guy that must have thought he was some sort of uber-christian. When he was flipping through his bible, I could see that he had yellow highlighted almost every single line.
The funny part about this is that highlighting everything defeats the point of using a highlighter. _________________ K Michau
Now this religion happens to prevail/Until by that one it is overthrown/Because men dare not live with men alone/But always with another fairy tale.
al-Ma'arri, Syrian Poet, died 1057
You deny the existence of 999 alleged Gods. I merely deny one more - yours.
John MacKinnon Robertson, "Godism" 1896
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:31 am Post subject:
My main issue with most evangelicals is how turn a blind eye to science, unless it benefits them. They will tell you all about how this world couldn't be around without a creator and recite all of this information about the earth's tilt and distance from the sun, the human eye, etc; but they refuse to even listen to arguments for evolution or the Big Bang. Evangelicals refuse to realize that if they use science to prove certain points of their faith, then they shouldn't pick and choose which science to use and which to not use. To all evangelicals: about evolution, I promise you that all of us atheists and scientists gather at a "Let's Bring Down Christianity" conference every year, the scientific evidence against your religion is NOT fabricated. I couldn't care less about disproving your religion and I bet most scientists don't care either. So get a grip.
And another thing that bothers me about them: that absolutely wretched music they listen to! I can barely take it sometimes... it makes me sit there with this look on my face
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject:
I don't have any problems with what people believe in. I understand that I am a minority on this planet and I have made my peace with that. I have never been personally "challenged" by a theist. The most I have ever gotten has been "So what is the difference between you an an Agnostic?". Most of my family is dye-in-the-wool Baptist, so there were a few interesting moments the day I told them I would no longer be going to church with them. But I never once had it shoved down my throat. So now I am all grown up an on the internets, I see this "insistence" that you agree with them. I find that instance for agreement annoying as fuck from both camps, but I am not sure if anyone understands that when you act like the only way your belief, argument, point of view, ect is going to stay alive if only I agree with it...well that doesn't say much for it's strength now does it?
On one hand, I always have admired the passion people feel for their beliefs, on the other...I wish they would just shut the fuck up and work harder on convincing themselves.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject:
The only probelm I have is that they think there so no possability they could be wrong. _________________ "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." Albert Einstein
"For then we will know the mind of God." Stephen Hawking
"We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realise that we are apes." Richard Dawkins
Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God get quite irate
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Goofy grin, glazed eyes and over dressed for the weather. A buy-bull under one arm bristling with post-a-notes, suits and ties, long dresses with long sleeves in the middle of summer in Oklahoma. You can pick them out of the crowd.
