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Uncertainty
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I don't see anything there about "be friends with teh gay pplz"  |
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SvZurich
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Fred calls his church Baptist because people are gullible enough to join his cult if he does. Westboro Baptist is not recognized by the American or Southern Baptists.
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Eyedunno
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| romans120 wrote: | | SvZurich wrote: | | Depends on if he gives more credence to the Old Testement/Torah (which he does) or the New Testement/Torah Unauthorized Appendix (which he does not). |
Did he make this statement? Because if he did why on earth does he call his church - Baptist. There lots of differant kinds of Baptists but they usually agree on the "The Baptist Distinctives" all of which are based on NT concepts
Save you some wiki time
B Biblical authority
A Autonomy of the local church
P priesthood of the believer
T Two Ordinances (everybody else calls them sacriments)
I individual Soul liberty
S Saved membership
T Two offices |
I'm not sure why he calls his church Baptist either. But that acrostic thing looks fun. Let me do one!
M Multiple wives
O Obnoxious door-knocking
R Return of Jesus to Missouri
M Magic underwear
O Old age not a requirement for being called "elder"
N Native Americans suck
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| SvZurich wrote: | | Fred calls his church Baptist because people are gullible enough to join his cult if he does. Westboro Baptist is not recognized by the American or Southern Baptists. |
Um. Since when does Phred care if people join? Westboro Baptist is not exactly on a recruiting drive. |
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Gerard
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| romans120 wrote: | | SvZurich wrote: | | Depends on if he gives more credence to the Old Testement/Torah (which he does) or the New Testement/Torah Unauthorized Appendix (which he does not). |
Did he make this statement? Because if he did why on earth does he call his church - Baptist. There lots of differant kinds of Baptists but they usually agree on the "The Baptist Distinctives" all of which are based on NT concepts
Save you some wiki time
B Biblical authority
A Autonomy of the local church
P priesthood of the believer
T Two Ordinances (everybody else calls them sacriments)
I individual Soul liberty
S Saved membership
T Two offices |
Off topic question here, do baptists actually subscribe to the Nicene creed and / or Chalcedonic creed? Or is it just Scripture to the exclusion of all other doctrine? Most churches adhere to those two councils at least.
Gerard
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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M Multiple wives
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R Return of Jesus to Missouri
M Magic underwear
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BarkAtTheMoon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Eyedunno wrote: |
M Multiple wives
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Good stuff. 
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| SvZurich wrote: | | Fred calls his church Baptist because people are gullible enough to join his cult if he does. Westboro Baptist is not recognized by the American or Southern Baptists. |
Um. Since when does Phred care if people join? Westboro Baptist is not exactly on a recruiting drive. |
Yeah, they pretty much just breed their new recruits. The vast majority of Westboro Baptist are Phelps or their spouses.
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This ruling makes me so happy. I guess most of you know that I had a personal run-in with them a few weeks ago.
No one decked them (they were standing right next to a pile of bricks... lucky fuckers had cops nearby or I might have been tempted to break some of their faces), but they got spat on a lot and one guy chucked what appeared to be an old cup of soda at them. He missed, but still.
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BarkAtTheMoon
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| spozmo wrote: | This ruling makes me so happy. I guess most of you know that I had a personal run-in with them a few weeks ago.
No one decked them (they were standing right next to a pile of bricks... lucky fuckers had cops nearby or I might have been tempted to break some of their faces), but they got spat on a lot and one guy chucked what appeared to be an old cup of soda at them. He missed, but still. |
It's stuff like that why I'm amazed nobody from social services has ever gone after them for putting their kids in that kind of situation. It's bad enough teaching kids the kind of hatred those fucks spew, but willfully and most likely intentionally putting them in potentially dangerous situations like that is over the top. I wouldn't be suprised if they want someone to fuck up one of their kids just so they can get more media attention and score martyr points.
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romans120
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| Gerard wrote: | | romans120 wrote: | | SvZurich wrote: | | Depends on if he gives more credence to the Old Testement/Torah (which he does) or the New Testement/Torah Unauthorized Appendix (which he does not). |
Did he make this statement? Because if he did why on earth does he call his church - Baptist. There lots of differant kinds of Baptists but they usually agree on the "The Baptist Distinctives" all of which are based on NT concepts
Save you some wiki time
B Biblical authority
A Autonomy of the local church
P priesthood of the believer
T Two Ordinances (everybody else calls them sacriments)
I individual Soul liberty
S Saved membership
T Two offices |
Off topic question here, do baptists actually subscribe to the Nicene creed and / or Chalcedonic creed? Or is it just Scripture to the exclusion of all other doctrine? Most churches adhere to those two councils at least.
Gerard |
Nicene Creed but The Baptist Confession goes back the 1689 2nd london baptist confession
http://www.vor.org/truth/1689/1689bc00.html
The Nicene creed is a bit easier to remember though
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| BarkAtTheMoon wrote: | | spozmo wrote: | This ruling makes me so happy. I guess most of you know that I had a personal run-in with them a few weeks ago.
No one decked them (they were standing right next to a pile of bricks... lucky fuckers had cops nearby or I might have been tempted to break some of their faces), but they got spat on a lot and one guy chucked what appeared to be an old cup of soda at them. He missed, but still. |
It's stuff like that why I'm amazed nobody from social services has ever gone after them for putting their kids in that kind of situation. It's bad enough teaching kids the kind of hatred those fucks spew, but willfully and most likely intentionally putting them in potentially dangerous situations like that is over the top. I wouldn't be suprised if they want someone to fuck up one of their kids just so they can get more media attention and score martyr points. |
Social services haven't got a leg to stand on if they try to stop them for potential danger.. Just about every member of the family is a lawyer. They are hard to beat in a court of law and that is what makes this verdict so exciting. I am glad that they can't step in for the children. While you see it as potential danger, it is so minimal compared to the potential danger in football, little league, girl or boy scout hikes, and etc. As it is there are too many laws on potential danger right now IMO.
It is libel that they got caught on as well as deep emotional duress. There is a very good chance that it will hold up in a higher court although the amount of money may get cut. A couple of mil is more than they have in assets according to one article I read, so that would do to shut them down. Wouldn't that be great that it is money that shuts them down.
For those who think they are following the bible so closely and a truer christian, not at all. It would be different if they were just focused on gays because of their individual activities. But they are focused on different countries that allow gays and that is why these soldiers are being called fags even though they aren't. At least most of them more than likely weren't. So he is breaking the commandment about false witness which according to the bible is equally a sin. All of us who support gays are fags also and there is nothing biblical about that.
He's a cherry picker just like the rest of the cherry pickers. Only he picks the hateful parts and most of us pick the loving parts. |
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SvZurich
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Love the fact the article mentions the Phelps' new Iphone and how much they spend on plane tickets when they claim to only have $300 in total liquid assets.
| Quote: | As for the church, Katz said, its only income is generated by meager tithings from congregants, many of whom are children or unemployed.
Trebilcock told jurors that they did not have to believe the Phelpses' financial disclosures -- pointing out that Rebecca Phelps- Davis reported just $306 in liquid assets.
Earlier in the trial, the Phelpses testified that they spent $400 apiece on plane tickets to get to Snyder's funeral. And Shirley Phelps-Roper eagerly showed off her iPhone to reporters, which she said was a birthday gift from her children. |
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Uncertainty
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| 11 million bleh |
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SvZurich
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| Uncertainty wrote: | | 11 million bleh |
Agreed. Should have made it 15 million. 
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| Actually my bleh was meaning the opposite. |
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