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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Was Hitler a Christian? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hitler

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"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter."

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out".

Hitler killed 5,933,000 Jews and did it in the name of the Christian Lord.

What do you guys think about this? Check out my site it has refrences you can look at under "views of great people".
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We always forget about the 20 million Russians that died in WW2 don't we?!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

here is a good link



I didn't take the time to look them up but on similar threads I have posted links to quotes where Hitler articulated how he would use Christianity only to accomplish his means.

Also consider this quote

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While Spencer's attempts at applying the theories of biological evolution to the social realm fail miserably on an intellectual plane, they have actually been highly successful at being transferred onto a social plane: his idea has replicated and varied itself for almost two hundred years since being proposed, shaping American economic policy, immigration law, and political thinking up to today, while its variants have influenced everything from Hitler's eugenics to various state-sponsored incidents of ethnic cleansing.


this was taken from this essayhttp://serendip.brynmawr.edu/sci_cult/evolit/s05/web1/mheeney.html

The problem is that the point of bringing up Hitlers Christianity is to imply that the logical conclusion of his belief system is what prompted his evil actions. It is clear though that the obvious motivator of his horrible policies was his conclusions about Darwinian survival of the fittest.

If you judge authentic Christianity only by what the Bible teaches exterminating the Jews would make it impossible for Hitler to fit into that category because there are still prophesies that must be fulfilled to the Jews.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hitler's views do not exonerate atheism over christianity or vice versa. His hunger was power. Even if religion were swept off the earth there would still be Hitlers in the world. Religious fervor would die in favor of political or idealogical fervor.

As soon as a ridiculous group of people find that they agree with each other, they become dangerous.

(Note that we here are not in a hundred percent agreement with each other here on social, biological, or political issues.)

As to the topic at hand, Hitler used what he could when he could to gain the favor of Germany. If not Christianity, he would simply have used some other idealogical tool at his disposal.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hitler and Martin Luther

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It makes sense that a lot of totalitarian dictators strive to eradicate religions. Religion is, in general, all about controlling people, their minds and their actions, which makes it a direct competitor to the dictator. Though religion is often used by such leaders, eventually, it must always be eliminated for the leader to truly dominate all aspects of society and fully control the people.

As far as Hitler goes, I think his goal was to effectively become a god. His dealings with the occult and searches for Christian religious symbols would fit in with this idea and the thousand year Reich would cement that status.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah, but he also stole the swastika from an occult organization... You decide.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Hitler Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Just because a crazy psycho decides to kill a bunch of people in the name of God, doesn't mean that everyone from that religion is evil.

Just because he misrepresents the faith doesn't mean anything.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Hitler Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

blackapologetics wrote:
Just because a crazy psycho decides to kill a bunch of people in the name of God, doesn't mean that everyone from that religion is evil.

Just because he misrepresents the faith doesn't mean anything.


http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

it does when the very core of the religion is about violence and genocide.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

John Stossel says "no!"

The discussion is over.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hitler was a confirmed atheist
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hitler was a confirmed atheist
You base this statement on what?
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

richard dawkins said it in a video i watched and i believe that is a reliable source.

hitler along with stalin
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hit_me_up024 wrote:
richard dawkins said it in a video i watched and i believe that is a reliable source.

hitler along with stalin

You mean this one?

There, it was Bill O'Reilly that said that Hitler was a "confirmed atheist":

(2:54 O'Reilly) "...I will point to the worst mass murderer in... modern times: Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Palpot, all confirmed atheists. "

Here's what Dawkins said:

(4:09 Dawkins) "It may well be a moderating influence, as for Hitler and Stalin I mean, of course. Hiter by the way was a Roman Catholic."
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Philosophos wrote:
Hit_me_up024 wrote:
richard dawkins said it in a video i watched and i believe that is a reliable source.

hitler along with stalin

You mean this one?

There, it was Bill O'Reilly that said that Hitler was a "confirmed atheist":

(2:54 O'Reilly) "...I will point to the worst mass murderer in... modern times: Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Palpot, all confirmed atheists. "

Here's what Dawkins said:

(4:09 Dawkins) "It may well be a moderating influence, as for Hitler and Stalin I mean, of course. Hiter by the way was a Roman Catholic."


hmm... how could it be that Hit_Me_up was wrong? he's normally so lucid and together!!!
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