To those people who say that we need God for morality...

emo samurai

are you saying that if you didn't believe in Jesus, you would go out and fucking rape children? That you're one church demolition away from killing everyone in sight?

If you think about it that way, then the insinuation that Jesus is needed for morality almost sounds like a threat.
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Shiranu · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject:

I always turn it around like that, they seem to get pissed. But in all honesty, that is EXACTLY what the suggest, that if, like me, they lived with out a god, (this part is unlike me) they would be crack smoking, baby raping, woman burning sons of satan, due to the fact that for some reason they were never taught morals, born with a sense for morals, and are not smart enough to have morals. I dont see what there problem is when you point out to them exactly what they said.
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emo samurai · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject:

Unbeliever · Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject:

I've asked this question before on a forum, and was told that, yes, the person would, indeed, be a holy terror, and would rob, steal, and kill with no compuction! I gave up the discussion after that - I got scared.
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pr126 · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:09 am Post subject:

Alexis · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:56 am Post subject:

A related question:

Which is more virtuous?

An individual that only follows the rules because of their fear of retribution (or possible reward) or a person that follows rules because of their concern for the greater good and their genuine interest in the relief of human suffering?
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Moloth · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:06 am Post subject:

emo samurai · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:22 am Post subject:

Moloth · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:23 am Post subject:

emo samurai · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:32 am Post subject:

That's true. People often make rules just to make rules, and they're self-important dumbasses.
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FlatEarth1024 · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:37 am Post subject:

Moloth · Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:44 am Post subject:

in my purely personal and anecdotal experience, i have seen more Good come from ignoring or abolishing rules, than i have by someone following rules that others have created for whatever purpose.

rules are more often simply ways of exerting power and control over others than means of spreading morality and Goodness.
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