Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Posts: 10021 Local time: 6:22 AM Location: USA
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject:
Godless Red Scum wrote:
See, I knew saying the Soviet intervention was justified would lead to some fun
Then you admit that you're naught but a troll.
See how easy it was to get you to admit that?
Godless Red Scum wrote:
The Afghan reactionaries were fighting to be free
Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:
....of soviet puppet rule.
What's the matter, hypocrite: don't like it when your argument is used against you?
*spit*
Hypocrites are disgusting.
Godless Red Scum wrote:
And the millions of Islamic reactionaries imported by the U.S., U.K. and Pakistan?
Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:
Freedom-fighters.
I can play your game better.
Godless Red Scum wrote:
By selectively
....doing the same thing you're doing. Don't you like it when you have your method used against you? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Poor butthurt baby/
Knight of BAAWA wrote:
Here's something to think about: what real difference is there between being stripped of all your rights in a soviet system (deny it and I'll just laugh at you) and being stripped of all your rights under the taliban?
Godless Red Scum wrote:
For women living in areas under PDPA control there was a huge difference.
None. Being stripped of rights is being stripped of rights.
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Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 837 Local time: 7:22 AM
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:
Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:
Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:
Tell me: are you really as stupid as your posts indicate, or is it just an act?
Godless Red Scum wrote:
Yes, I'm as stupid as my posts indicate.
Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:
That figures. Glad to see you admitting to being a fuckwit.
Godless Red Scum wrote:
Um, actually I didn't.
Actually, you did.
Godless Red Scum wrote:
I only stated I'm as stupid as my posts indicate.
And they indicate that you're a fuckwit.
You walked right into that one.
I said I'm as stupid as my posts indicate. Not as stupid as they indicate to you, as you didn't ask that. Objectively, they indicate I'm not stupid at all.
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 3942 Local time: 2:22 PM Location: Poland
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:40 am Post subject:
Godless Red Scum wrote:
EVENTUALLY it would have ended. But sooner is better than later. And yeah, if millions had to die to abolish slavery a few decades eariler, it was certainly worth it.
Oh man... I don't know how you can make such a judgment with such certainty.
Would it be worth it if it ended slavery only a month earlier? A year?
At what point does ending slavery outweigh all the lives lost?
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Saying the war was about slavery does not deny other issues at play or "the big picture".
Well, ok. It's just that far too often all the other issues are ignored, and people act as tough the war was about nothing but slavery.
If you're not one of them, then we don't have much to argue over here.
Moloth wrote:
the greater good, in my opinion, is in the way history played out. if things had gone differently, can you PROVE that slavery would've ended? can you prove that the quality of life for people (all people, regardless of color) on the North American continent would be as good or better than they are now?
I'm not that good with history, so someone better versed might make a better argument, but...:
- Slavery was becoming economically obsolete. Why do you think the north didn't have slavery? You think it's because they were more moral?
- The Civil War itself killed lots of people (of all races on both sides) and ruined the economy (again making people of all races worse off).
- This may be a bit far-fetched, but with states being stronger relative to the federal government then they are now, it's possible they'd oppose the Hoover-Roosevelt New Deal, and that in turn would mean no Great Depression.
So, did you watch the clip, Moloth? _________________
It is as though your species' brain is too small to hold a simple thought such as, WE WILL KILL YOU FOR DISOBEYING!
This is not a complex idea.
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 3942 Local time: 2:22 PM Location: Poland
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject:
More clips. Check out the related videos.
There's a bit more butthurt about the Lincoln cult, but once he gets this out of his system the yummy part with all the interesting facts starts.
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It is as though your species' brain is too small to hold a simple thought such as, WE WILL KILL YOU FOR DISOBEYING!
This is not a complex idea.
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