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 Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: The Unanswerable Question For Christians? |
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If Christianity is the one true faith, and God wants everybody to go to Heaven by accepting it, then why did it take our species (which is about 195,000 years old) approximately 190,000 years to discover it (while in the meantime worshipping all manner of "false" gods and following scores of "fake" religions)?
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The earth is only 6,000 years old, and the false religions are a result of a combination of the Tower of Babel and Satanic deception.
Woohoo! Give me my Templeton prize for reconciling Christianity and anthropology. 
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Call it an appeal to ad hominem, but I cannot take anybody seriously who legitimately contends that the Earth is only 6000 years old. After making such an absurd assertion, I never could take any of that person's arguments seriously.
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| Quote: | | Call it an appeal to ad hominem, but I cannot take anybody seriously who legitimately contends that the Earth is only 6000 years old. After making such an absurd assertion, I never could take any of that person's arguments seriously. |
That is because you don't have faith. |
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| Polaris wrote: | | That is because you have a brain |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Polaris wrote: | | Quote: | | Call it an appeal to ad hominem, but I cannot take anybody seriously who legitimately contends that the Earth is only 6000 years old. After making such an absurd assertion, I never could take any of that person's arguments seriously. |
That is because you don't have faith. |
If by faith you mean a complete and utter rejection of reality as a whole. Then yes....faith
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| Polaris wrote: | | Quote: | | Call it an appeal to ad hominem, but I cannot take anybody seriously who legitimately contends that the Earth is only 6000 years old. After making such an absurd assertion, I never could take any of that person's arguments seriously. |
That is because you don't have faith. |
Faith = Belief in that for which no solid evidence exists.
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| WWFStern wrote: | | Polaris wrote: | | Quote: | | Call it an appeal to ad hominem, but I cannot take anybody seriously who legitimately contends that the Earth is only 6000 years old. After making such an absurd assertion, I never could take any of that person's arguments seriously. |
That is because you don't have faith. |
Faith = Belief in that for which no solid evidence exists. |
That and the occasional belief against evidence.
I'd define it more:
Belief in-spite of evidence.
(I don't give these wackos the benefit of claiming the lack of evidence in any direction)
And no, I wouldn't consider your standards as expressed anything close to ad hominem. They are perfectly reasonable requests on your part for one making claims to actually have common knowledge of the subject-matter.
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That's a good point.
The soul, for example, would represent a belief in spite of evidence, rather than in the absence of it.
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There's an atheist video that defines faith as "voluntary gullibility," and that's about as good a definition as any I've encountered.
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Kelreth wrote:
| Quote: | | If by faith you mean a complete and utter rejection of reality as a whole. Then yes....faith |
Yeah, that about sums up faith, belief held just out of the desire for it to be true and stubbornly denying any evidence contrary to that belief. |
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| Polaris wrote: | Kelreth wrote:
| Quote: | | If by faith you mean a complete and utter rejection of reality as a whole. Then yes....faith |
Yeah, that about sums up faith, belief held just out of the desire for it to be true and stubbornly denying any evidence contrary to that belief. |
I call that willful ignorance.
Someone holding a belief to be true with no evidence I call faith. Holding a belief despite that evidence stands to the contrary, that's willful ignorance.
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| Quote: | | Holding a belief despite that evidence stands to the contrary, that's willful ignorance. |
Exactly!!!!!
Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Yup................dumb on purpose.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| RUGoingUP wrote: | | Quote: | | Holding a belief despite that evidence stands to the contrary, that's willful ignorance. |
Exactly!!!!!
Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Yup................dumb on purpose.
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Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. |
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Sorry Hillbilly.
out of context...AGAIN!!!
First, it's God who's calling them fools, not me.
Second, I'm not angry.
Third, a 'brother' is a fellow believer, which he is not.
The Bible really DOES make sense, if you know how to read it.
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