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 Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: The Satanic Bible |
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I got an electronic copy of The Satanic Bible. I was just surprised when I read The Nine Satanic Statements:
| Quote: | 1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic
vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than
those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all
these years
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible |
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| agnostic_one wrote: | I got an electronic copy of The Satanic Bible. I was just surprised when I read The Nine Satanic Statements:
| Quote: | 1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic
vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than
those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all
these years
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What surprised you? I bought the book when I was 18 (the prime age to buy/read The Satanic Bible, BTW), so I'm quite familiar with this stuff, but, while I enjoyed it back then, I don't really find anything "surprising." |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:56 am Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible |
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| Eyedunno wrote: | | agnostic_one wrote: | I got an electronic copy of The Satanic Bible. I was just surprised when I read The Nine Satanic Statements:
| Quote: | 1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic
vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than
those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all
these years
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What surprised you? I bought the book when I was 18 (the prime age to buy/read The Satanic Bible, BTW), so I'm quite familiar with this stuff, but, while I enjoyed it back then, I don't really find anything "surprising." |
What surprised me was the truth and common sense in these statements. |
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Eyedunno
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible |
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| agnostic_one wrote: | | Eyedunno wrote: | | agnostic_one wrote: | I got an electronic copy of The Satanic Bible. I was just surprised when I read The Nine Satanic Statements:
| Quote: | 1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic
vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than
those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all
these years
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What surprised you? I bought the book when I was 18 (the prime age to buy/read The Satanic Bible, BTW), so I'm quite familiar with this stuff, but, while I enjoyed it back then, I don't really find anything "surprising." |
What surprised me was the truth and common sense in these statements. |
Yeah, well, except for the "Satan represents" part. LaVey's defense of Satanism against appellations like "humanism" and so on never made much sense to me. Of course the real reason the Church of Satan name was important was publicity. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible |
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| Eyedunno wrote: |
Yeah, well, except for the "Satan represents" part. LaVey's defense of Satanism against appellations like "humanism" and so on never made much sense to me. Of course the real reason the Church of Satan name was important was publicity. |
I agree.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible |
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| agnostic_one wrote: | | What surprised me was the truth and common sense in these statements. |
Why do you think Christians hate it so much
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Yeah, I wouldn't give too much credence to LaVey, though, if I were you. The philosophy is/was, in its entirety, unoriginal.
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| I can't say I agree with all of it :O |
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I tend to like what I read of Satanism, but it seems to be nothing more than a libertine philosophy wrapped in religion's clothes. Also, I think that it goes a bit far in its embrace of vengeance and solely self, as some degree of altruism is wholly natural, and vengeance is a silly thing to waste one's time on. It would be easier and more productive to eliminate the desire for vengeance rather than trying to fulfill it.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| J_Lazarus wrote: | Yeah, I wouldn't give too much credence to LaVey, though, if I were you. The philosophy is/was, in its entirety, unoriginal.
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I don’t give too much credit to LaVey, I was just ignorant regarding Satanism, expecting some obscure, occult, evil, frightening rituals in that book. It seems was just Christian bias on my side. Still heard about some aberrant cases of satanic rituals (or at least declared so) in which human sacrifices were performed. I don’t have the other book by LaVey “The Satanic Rituals” to see if there are described or even suggested some dangerous practices that could lead to those aberrant cases.
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| agnostic_one wrote: | | J_Lazarus wrote: | Yeah, I wouldn't give too much credence to LaVey, though, if I were you. The philosophy is/was, in its entirety, unoriginal.
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I don’t give too much credit to LaVey, I was just ignorant regarding Satanism, expecting some obscure, occult, evil, frightening rituals in that book. It seems was just Christian bias on my side. Still heard about some aberrant cases of satanic rituals (or at least declared so) in which human sacrifices were performed. I don’t have the other book by LaVey “The Satanic Rituals” to see if there are described or even suggested some dangerous practices that could lead to those aberrant cases. |
Human sacrifices, etc. are not promoted whatsoever in "The Satanic Rituals". A Black Mass is discussed at length, but there's nothing dangerous about it - and it's actually pretty kinky 
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Does it mention love anywhere, between parents and children, for example? Or between a man and a woman or another man or/and another woman?
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| J_Lazarus wrote: | | agnostic_one wrote: | | J_Lazarus wrote: | Yeah, I wouldn't give too much credence to LaVey, though, if I were you. The philosophy is/was, in its entirety, unoriginal.
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I don’t give too much credit to LaVey, I was just ignorant regarding Satanism, expecting some obscure, occult, evil, frightening rituals in that book. It seems was just Christian bias on my side. Still heard about some aberrant cases of satanic rituals (or at least declared so) in which human sacrifices were performed. I don’t have the other book by LaVey “The Satanic Rituals” to see if there are described or even suggested some dangerous practices that could lead to those aberrant cases. |
Human sacrifices, etc. are not promoted whatsoever in "The Satanic Rituals". A Black Mass is discussed at length, but there's nothing dangerous about it - and it's actually pretty kinky
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The Black Mass was designed solely as a publicity stunt. LaVey even mentioned that it's only supposed to be performed in the presence of media. Most of the "rituals" and "events" of Satanism were created to get a rise out of Christians. There's a DVD called "Satanis: The Devil's Mass" which shows one of the original rituals performed by LaVey, his wife, and the first followers of the Church of Satan. The underlying philosophy is based a lot on Ayn Rand's Objectivism, with the ritual aspects added.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible |
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| agnostic_one wrote: | | Eyedunno wrote: |
Yeah, well, except for the "Satan represents" part. LaVey's defense of Satanism against appellations like "humanism" and so on never made much sense to me. Of course the real reason the Church of Satan name was important was publicity. |
I agree. |
A better word is provocateurism.
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| I think Satanism is just a giant inside joke on Christians. |
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