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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I like #9 best. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

agnostic_one wrote:
I got an electronic copy of The Satanic Bible. I was just surprised when I read The Nine Satanic Statements:

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1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic
vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than
those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all
these years


Bought it several years back, read it, was wholly unimpressed. It is clear from his writings that LaVey was an angry individual. There is no lack of stories from former Church of Satan members about LaVey's abuses towards his wife and particularly his dog. He thought that it was proper and good to physically dominate others.

Sure, it feels good in the moment to strike out at someone who displeases you, but is that really the best thing to do in the long run? LaVey's whole philosophy seems to be based on instant gratification at the cost of long term gain. "Fuck tomorrow, I want it NOW!"

He was an immature boy-man, and his writings show his naked essence.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Of course the real reason the Church of Satan name was important was publicity.


All religion is simply show business.

The Church of Satan simply recognizes that and does publicise on it.

Nine tenths outrage combined with one tenth respectability.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

agnostic_one wrote:
Eyedunno wrote:
agnostic_one wrote:
I got an electronic copy of The Satanic Bible. I was just surprised when I read The Nine Satanic Statements:

Quote:
1. Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
2. Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
5. Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic
vampires!
7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than
those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification!
9. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all
these years

What surprised you? I bought the book when I was 18 (the prime age to buy/read The Satanic Bible, BTW), so I'm quite familiar with this stuff, but, while I enjoyed it back then, I don't really find anything "surprising."


What surprised me was the truth and common sense in these statements.


might appear to be common sense but i see nothing her that suggests that satanism would make you happy, maybe in the short term when things are going well but think about when things are going badly for you and you cannot endulge yourself,

you will ahve more than likely lost all your true friends and if you have any satanic friends do you really think they would help, they would more likely use your weakness to their advantage

besides if you believed in satn then you would have to believe in christianity and were would you rather end up in the after life, in hell or heaven

EDIT - although number 7 is one of the most truthful things to be said by any religion, its on a par with budha saying all desires will eventually lead to suffering
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

RyanDzundza wrote:
besides if you believed in satn then you would have to believe in christianity and were would you rather end up in the after life, in hell or heaven


You do realize that, unlike theistic Satanism, LaVeyan Satanism is largely atheistic? Nearly all LaVeyan Satanists do not believe in God or Satan as entities, but use the term "Satan" to represent the items listed in the original post.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: The Satanic Bible Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wander wrote:
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besides if you believed in satn then you would have to believe in christianity and were would you rather end up in the after life, in hell or heaven


You do realize that, unlike theistic Satanism, LaVeyan Satanism is largely atheistic? Nearly all LaVeyan Satanists do not believe in God or Satan as entities, but use the term "Satan" to represent the items listed in the original post.


i had no idea there was more than one satanistic religions/cults, although to be honest i have never been to bothered to learn about satanism
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh yes - theistic Satanism that believes in and worships Satan as a god, and LaVeyan Satanism which is largely atheistic and only uses "Satan" to represent things. You only ever hear about Satanists sacrificing animals and killing children, but the codes of LaVeyan Satanism are strongly against both the murder of animals and the harming of children.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

\m/ Hail Satan \m/
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

i always thought the regular bible was the "Satanic" version.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I dated a satanist for a short time.....interesting. She seemed more emo then anything though, and almost borderline paganistic for the fact that she would always say "gods" instead of "god" (kinda how I say "Goodness" instead of "god", like "Oh my goodness!"). well, could have been Hinduism.

I never got around to reading the satanic verses though.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It really does not appear much better than christianity lol. Im pretty sure that most people who claim to be "satanist" are ignorant people who are drawn to the christian idea of satan. It is entirely about publicity and attention, that's the reason that the name "satan" is used. I think that LaVey could have gotten his point across much better with just the ideals and none of the satan bullshit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I have been to some satanic rituals in the past out of curiousity (Levay versions).

Satanism is divided into two types: The followers of Levay, who are relly atheists mocking christianity and have no more belief in satan than they do in god ... and devil worshipers, people who believe in god and simply choose the other side.

Christians have a complex, for the most part, about anything evil --- fearing it will taint them on contact or open them to possession. So even the word satanism is going to make their minds snap shut. Plus, the mocking part of it can't help.

For the Levay satanists:
During the ritual, there is a dark mass and drinking of blood (which is grape juice or some other thing), which is again mocking the whole sacrament thing.

I have been told by Levay satanists that it is a celebration of our basic human nature, that they celebrate humanity for what it is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I like the Satnist's 11 rules and 9 sins. Especially the fist sin. Ha. Even thought I am not a Satnist myself.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I was reading into Satanism a few months ago. I found it pretty shitty that you have to pay money to be a member of the Church Of Satan. Sure you get a card and stuff, but it was over $100 if I remember correctly.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Quite honestly, it seems like the entire Satanist religion is based upon outcast dorks and geeks in school who were picked on and now want to empower themselves. That is the exact impression that I get from it.

Yes the credos are very commonsensical, but Satanism is an offshoot of atheism. And if you're already and atheist, then anything that shares your same views is gonna make sense to you. Basically I think the entire religion is just a way for freaks to feel better about themselves.

I just have a hard time taking seriously someone who looks like this (taken from the Church of Satan website). It just seems like these people are quacks and full of New Agey-witchquackery.




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