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Philosophos
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http://www.400monkeys.com/God/
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kmisho
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Philosophos wrote: | | http://www.400monkeys.com/God/ |
That says it all.
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josephpalazzo
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| Moloth wrote: | Hell, just a few years ago at about 1999-2000 they still didn't have much of a clue of what a gamma-ray burst was. i read some pretty strange theories about them around then.
One theory was that they were the energy bleedthrough of a collapsing universe that was next to our own. O_o |
Correction, what is unkown is the cause of those gamma burst... |
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josephpalazzo
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | kmisho wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | they used to think (And a few still do, I don't) that gravity could be strong enougth to stop it. |
Given current knowledge, it would have already started. And this is what they expected to see, that the acceleration was slowing down, a decrease in the increase as it were. But what they actually found was an increase in the increase. Whatever is doing that would have to weaken or stop for gravity to take over.
The most important phrase in science: given current knowledge. |
I agre with you.
but one question is there anyproof of dark matter? or dark enegry? |
Dark matter was postulated in the 70'S in order to explain the anomaly of stars not obeying the known laws of physics in galaxies.
Dark energy was postulated in the 90'S in order to account for the acceleration of the universe, which the BBT cannot explain.
The observation gathered so far indicates indirect evidence of these exotic things. |
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zen
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: The God Argument |
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from above site
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Is The Universe Eternal?
The Kalam argument says that if the universe is eternal (has always been and always will be), then the past must be eternal and without a beginning. But if the past was eternal, then we could have never arrived at the present. |
and yet here we are,
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To get to the present from an eternal past, means we would have had to traverse (go through) an infinite amount of time (all of eternal history)! |
why?
it doesnt make any sense.
Kalam argument has been destroyed long time ago see
www.infidels.org |
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tonyman1989
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Dark matter was postulated in the 70'S in order to explain the anomaly of stars not obeying the known laws of physics in galaxies.
Dark energy was postulated in the 90'S in order to account for the acceleration of the universe, which the BBT cannot explain.
The observation gathered so far indicates indirect evidence of these exotic things. |
I know when they where thought up and why, I what to know can they prove it.
I'm not antidarkmatter but before we go crazy and start naming things we need to know what it is and how it works.
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http://www.atheistforums.com/weblog.php?w=22 Tonyman1989 blog's - updated on 8/28/07 - An interview of steven weinberg on religion |
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Isambard
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| Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Never did understand how some grey areas in science means the Christian God exists. Science may not be able to tell us how the Big bang started, but historians can tell us how 'God' started http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_%28god%29
This should be enough to make any individual religious claims bunk
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