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OH. MY. GOD.
my mother and father molested me every time they changed my diaper and put me in the bath! They intentionally exposed my genitalia so that they could see it!
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Specus_Meretricis
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| sjc wrote: | | Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | I don't consider the "sucking out of the blood" to be child molestation. It isn't meant in a sexual way, just a weird tradition. |
Yes, it is molestation.
| Quote: | | You might as well say I am molesting my nephew every time I tuck his stove pipe down when I am putting on his diaper. This doesn't mean I support the practice at all. |
Do you get him drunk first? Do you hold on to it for more than a brief moment? Did you intentionally expose it in the first place?
| Quote: | | Recently, a large number of infants were given a nice fat dose of a Rabbi's herpes because of it. |
Remember, herpes is primarily a sexually transmitted disease. |
But the Rabbi didn't get herpes from a baby or a child, right? He got it from whatever source he got it from and spread it by exposing the children to the virus on his mouth. Because it may be transmitted during sex doesn't mean that he had sex with children to give it to them. Some mothers with the disease have to avoid kissing their children for the same reason. She isn't having sex with her children either.
Sexual molestation is when the child is being touched for sexual reasons. The ritual is not a sexual ritual. You don't have to call it pedophilia to make it a bad thing, it's pretty bad on it's own. I don't agree that every Rabbi that still practices this form of bris is a child molester. It's just a cartoon attack and silly to assume that.
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sjc
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | OH. MY. GOD.
my mother and father molested me every time they changed my diaper and put me in the bath! They intentionally exposed my genitalia so that they could see it! |
Read it again.
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Specus_Meretricis
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| sjc wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | OH. MY. GOD.
my mother and father molested me every time they changed my diaper and put me in the bath! They intentionally exposed my genitalia so that they could see it! |
Read it again. |
That is essentially what you are saying. You are telling us that anyone that touches a child's penis or sees a child naked for a long time is a child molester. So we better round up all the pediatricians, nurses, o.b gyns, and parents. There is a HUGE difference between what you are describing and real pedophilia. My sister had to rub an ointment on her kid's dick after his circumcision, so I guess she just likes to give hand jobs. |
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sjc
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | But the Rabbi didn't get herpes from a baby or a child, right? He got it from whatever source he got it from and spread it by exposing the children to the virus on his mouth. |
Irrelevant. He still passed it along.
| Quote: | | Because it may be transmitted during sex doesn't mean that he had sex with children to give it to them. |
Intercourse is not the only way to have sex.
| Quote: | | Some mothers with the disease have to avoid kissing their children for the same reason. She isn't having sex with her children either. |
But most likely she got it through sexual contact. There are precautions to take to prevent passing it along to others.
| Quote: | | Sexual molestation is when the child is being touched for sexual reasons. |
By definition this meets the requirements. It is irrelevant if it isn't really intended as such it still is molestation.
| Quote: | | The ritual is not a sexual ritual. |
It is ritual mutilation of the sexual organ which is just as bad. Just as FGM is.
| Quote: | | You don't have to call it pedophilia to make it a bad thing, it's pretty bad on it's own. I don't agree that every Rabbi that still practices this form of bris is a child molester. It's just a cartoon attack and silly to assume that. |
And that is how such things go on. Some are just in denial. As I had said before, tradition without truth is an old error.
BTW, please re-read my previous replay. I removed the part about intentional exposure.
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| Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | That is essentially what you are saying. You are telling us that anyone that touches a child's penis or sees a child naked for a long time is a child molester. So we better round up all the pediatricians, nurses, o.b gyns, and parents. There is a HUGE difference between what you are describing and real pedophilia. |
As I had said. Please re-read it. I had changed it before seeing any of your replies.
| Quote: | | My sister had to rub an ointment on her kid's dick after his circumcision, so I guess she just likes to give hand jobs. |
At the request of the rabbi? With FGM it is required that the girl's mother hold her down. To make them part of it.... To further valid it. I can understand that you don't want to realize that you've been used to continue such a barbaric act on an innocent child. But in Western society this is what it boils down to by law. The only reason they still get away with it is of their claim that it is a very old and required ritual of their religion. Anyone else would be put in jail for doing this sort of thing.
Remember, these forums aren't just for exposing the ignorance and evil of Christianity and Islam, but of ALL theistic religions. Jews don't get a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card.
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Specus_Meretricis
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| sjc wrote: | | Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | But the Rabbi didn't get herpes from a baby or a child, right? He got it from whatever source he got it from and spread it by exposing the children to the virus on his mouth. |
Irrelevant. He still passed it along.
Relevant, you wanted to use it as a sexualy transmitted disease to make a point. I gave you examples how it is not always spread sexually. I cock slapped it out of the water. Don't bring up your lame, half assed points if you don't want them shot down next time.
| Quote: | | Because it may be transmitted during sex doesn't mean that he had sex with children to give it to them. |
Intercourse is not the only way to have sex.
So you are saying the only way you can have herpes is through sex activity of some kind? That is the only way? Are you sure?
| Quote: | | Some mothers with the disease have to avoid kissing their children for the same reason. She isn't having sex with her children either. |
But most likely she got it through sexual contact. There are precautions to take to prevent passing it along to others.
So what if she got it through sexual contact or not? Can she still pass it to someone without having sex with them, yes or no?
Shit, you are really fucking bad at this aren't you? I know it is cute and funny that you can't argue your way out of a wet paper bag and that you make these groundless accusations all the time, but grow the fuck up. I appreciate you are a shut in, but fucking stop watching t.v. as your main source of information. Especially "Liftetime" since you are so fucking caught up in dropping knee jerking drama bombs.
| Quote: | | Sexual molestation is when the child is being touched for sexual reasons. |
By definition this meets the requirements. It is irrelevant if it isn't really intended as such it still is molestation.
So what is the definition? Here, I'll show it to you:
From wiki: Child sexual abuse is an umbrella term describing criminal and civil offenses in which an adult engages in sexual activity with a minor or exploits a minor for the purpose of sexual gratification.
Hmmm..nothing about non sexual contact.
| Quote: | | The ritual is not a sexual ritual. |
Are the children being touched for sexual reasons? Yes or no? The answer is no. So they aren't getting molested.
It is ritual mutilation of the sexual organ which is just as bad. Just as FGM is.
| Quote: | | You don't have to call it pedophilia to make it a bad thing, it's pretty bad on it's own. I don't agree that every Rabbi that still practices this form of bris is a child molester. It's just a cartoon attack and silly to assume that. |
And that is how such things go on. Some are just in denial. As I had said before, tradition without truth is an old error.
BTW, please re-read my previous replay. I removed the part about intentional exposure. |
I'm not saying circumcision is a good thing. I'm saying your bullshit calling it a child sex orgy is. That is why I like that you can only voice your concerns in a forum where very few even bother reading your post anymore, and nowhere else. Saying stupid shit like this only distracts from the real issue, that this is a dangerous and painful ritual for a baby. Calling the rabbi a child molester is only making you look like an ass. If someone was just browsing this section read the shit you said without knowing that you are a total joke and mostly ignored, they would think that we just pull random "truth" out of our asses. Just give all this up and go back to theism. You will find more comfort there. |
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Specus_Meretricis
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| sjc wrote: | | Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | That is essentially what you are saying. You are telling us that anyone that touches a child's penis or sees a child naked for a long time is a child molester. So we better round up all the pediatricians, nurses, o.b gyns, and parents. There is a HUGE difference between what you are describing and real pedophilia. |
As I had said. Please re-read it. I had changed it before seeing any of your replies.
| Quote: | | My sister had to rub an ointment on her kid's dick after his circumcision, so I guess she just likes to give hand jobs. |
At the request of the rabbi? With FGM it is required that the girl's mother hold her down. To make them part of it.... To further valid it. I can understand that you don't want to realize that you've been used to continue such a barbaric act on an innocent child. But in Western society this is what it boils down to by law. The only reason they still get away with it is of their claim that it is a very old and required ritual of their religion. Anyone else would be put in jail for doing this sort of thing. |
How have I been used to continue a barbaric act? Please explain in detail. |
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| Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | How have I been used to continue a barbaric act? Please explain in detail. |
You're still denying its sexual nature.
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How is it not sexual?
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Specus_Meretricis
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | How is it not sexual? |
It's used to remove the blood from the wound. Though not recommended or good, it isn't sexual. The Rabbi isn't jerking himself off as he does it or whatever. You, and Sjc, have zero evidence that this is a sexual practice. |
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Specus_Meretricis
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| sjc wrote: | | Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | How have I been used to continue a barbaric act? Please explain in detail. |
You're still denying its sexual nature. |
Because it isn't a sexual practice. You, with your Western pornography and child molestation obsessions would see it that way. But that is because you sexualize children and all contact with them. You are in denial of this and that is why you are unable to support any of your claims.
See how that hysteria works? |
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tonyman1989
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| Specus_Meretricis wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | How is it not sexual? |
It's used to remove the blood from the wound. Though not recommended or good, it isn't sexual. The Rabbi isn't jerking himself off as he does it or whatever. You, and Sjc, have zero evidence that this is a sexual practice. |
dude his puting his mouth on a 6-months old penis 
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anamoly
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how is this a reputable source if they're talking new-age pagan mambo-jambo?
| Quote: | | It is the theft of the goddess womb surrounding, nurturing and protecting the Lingam - the expression of the masculine potency. Circumcision disconnects the male from his Divine Feminine and the Divine Mother, and from his physical mother. It alienates him from the goddess/feminine/mother potency within and without. It is the theft of nurturance, protection, tenderness, gentility…, disconnecting the being from these essential qualities of life. |
you could have used a better source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision
basically says a circumcision is not necissary for health reasons and even goes on about the different religions and how they execute it.
Judaism:
| Quote: | Less commonly practised, and more controversial, is metzitzah b'peh, or oral suction,[29][30] where the mohel sucks blood from the circumcision wound. The traditional reason for this procedure is to promote healing,[31][32] though the practice has been implicated in the spreading of herpes to the infant.[33] Today, if it is performed, the mohel generally uses a sterilized glass tube.[34][35]
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