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The Atheist's Obsession With God
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MockingGods

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject:

Missionary wrote:

Of course, if they have the evidence.

There's of course some very convincing evidence the human species has be around longer then 10k years. I’m not sure if it would even be considered evolutionary evidence.
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SpecterOpacus
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

Missionary wrote:

SpecterOpacus wrote:

You don't know fucking shit about the theory of evolution.

Or you're a troll.

Oh don't get we wrong, I'm certain you've run all the lab and confirmed everything. You're probably not one of those types that just reads science websites for all your info. I trust you and all, cuz you've probably got a PhD in human skulls or something. Me? I'm waiting on the International Consortium For Evolutionary Information to make their joint announcement to the world via satellite with the Silver Bullet[s] and SMOKIN'GUN evidence that will nail this coffin shut once and for all. Of course, if they have the evidence.

I trust peer-reviewed journals because it's a consortium of scientists rather than just one or two. They verify experiments and review them. Verification happens when predictions come true based upon observation. It's all testable as well, and there are different levels of testing this stuff.

But really, you trying to make it seem like my trust is science is contingent upon faith is a laugh. You're also going to start blabbering on on how this sort of stuff can be applied to religion, even though the vast majority of that shit is anti-scientific and not even possible let alone plausible. So please stop.

And go away.

Edit:

Hypothesis: New guy is a troll.

Observation: Says trolly things

PREDICTION TRUE

QED, GTFO.
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Azrael
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject:

Missionary wrote:

MockingGods wrote:

Missionary wrote:

But, Jesus showed up out of nowhere when I didn't expect Him.

What does THIS actually mean? Certainly a physical being named Jesus (no Mexican jokes please) didn't show up at your door and present himself. I'd love to understand what happens to a person when they think "Jesus shows up". Is it like an epiphany? Is there a voice whispering in your head, “Hey, this is the son of God, now you must believe all that’s written the bible”? I just don’t get this; this makes no sense to me.

When the Lord speaks? It's not like you're left wondering about anything.

I love how you skip around questions.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject:

Azrael wrote:

Missionary wrote:

MockingGods wrote:

Missionary wrote:

But, Jesus showed up out of nowhere when I didn't expect Him.

When the Lord speaks? It's not like you're left wondering about anything.

I love how you skip around questions.

It's 88 fucking pages of him skipping, dodging, and leaving posts unanswered or leaving absurd comments.

Why the fuck isn't this shit locked? Are we gonna sticky it to show theists what NOT to do to try to convince us their stories are true? Shit.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject:

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Why the fuck isn't this shit locked?

Of course I can’t speak for anyone else here, but I’m fascinated by a mind that believes a god(s) speaks to them. I’m not obsessed with God as the OP suggests, but I might be rightly accused of wanting (an obsession perhaps) to understand this particular human behavior.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject:

MockingGods wrote:

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Why the fuck isn't this shit locked?

I can go for that.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject:

I just want it to be known that I really am obsessed with god. I'm an atheist, but deep down in my heart I know god exists. I come on these forums to try and convince myself otherwise, but of course only a fool would say such things.™ I want to commend Missionary Position for his keen observations. Well done, sir. Missionary Position: 1 Atheists: -666 (we all secretly worship the devil, its ok just admit it guys) _________________ A liberal is a conservative who has been arrested. A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged. Last edited by not_a_theist on Fri May 16, 2008 9:07 pm; edited 1 time in total

Raggle Fraggle
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject:

I hate to sound like an idiot, but you're being sarcastic, right? _________________ Could you repeat that? I think I had something crazy in my ear.

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject:

SpecterOpacus wrote:

Missionary wrote:

SpecterOpacus wrote:

You don't know fucking shit about the theory of evolution.

Or you're a troll.

Some scientists don't agree with you.

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Clearly, then, both religion and science are founded on faith — namely, on belief in the existence of something outside the universe, like an unexplained God or an unexplained set of physical laws, maybe even a huge ensemble of unseen universes, too. For that reason, both monotheistic religion and orthodox science fail to provide a complete account of physical existence.

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/davies07/davies07_index.html

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Paul Charles William Davies (born April 22, 1946) is a British-born physicist, writer and broadcaster, presently a professor at Arizona State University, as well as the Director of BEYOND: Center for Fundamental Concepts in Science. He has held previous academic appointments at the University of Cambridge, University of London, University of Newcastle upon Tyne, University of Adelaide and Macquarie University. His research interests are in the fields of cosmology, quantum field theory, and astrobiology.

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject:

MockingGods wrote:

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Why the fuck isn't this shit locked?

Maybe you can't understand but at least you'll be able to relate. I didn't want anything to do with Jesus.

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject:

not_a_theist wrote:

I just want it to be known that I really am obsessed with god. I'm an atheist, but deep down in my heart I know god exists. I come on these forums to try and convince myself otherwise, but of course only a fool would say such things.™ I want to commend Missionary Position for his keen observations. Well done, sir.

Missionary Position: 1

Atheists: -666 (we all secretly worship the devil, its ok just admit it guys)

The word is "unwittingly".

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject:

MockingGods wrote:

Missionary wrote:

MockingGods wrote:

Missionary wrote:

But, Jesus showed up out of nowhere when I didn't expect Him.

When the Lord speaks? It's not like you're left wondering about anything.

Please elucidate further, this makes no sense to me. What exactly happened to make you think a god was speaking to you? Most people claim they had some experience that was so extraordinary it couldn’t be a coincidence. Did something different happen to you?

You'll be left with no doubt, your life will be transformed in an instant, and nobody on an atheist forum will believe you. That's exactly what it's like. Smile

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject:

Missionary wrote:

Some scientists don't agree with you.

And?

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http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/davies07/davies07_index.html

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He doesn't even state which physicists are saying this.

Second off, if we reach the point where our we can't explain the origination of something, then really we would fall back the humble statement of, "I don't know." Really though, if the laws have always been around in the first place, that doesn't equate to religion saying that their deity have always been around, because deities demonstrate certain properties that don't even seem to fit in with anything else.And if you get to the point where, "X deity created the universe because everything has a beginning," then that doesn't protect it from asking, "Where did X deity come from then?" Then you put Occam's Razor to this, etc.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject:

Missionary wrote:

MockingGods wrote:

Missionary wrote:

MockingGods wrote:

Missionary wrote:

But, Jesus showed up out of nowhere when I didn't expect Him.

When the Lord speaks? It's not like you're left wondering about anything.

You'll be left with no doubt, your life will be transformed in an instant, and nobody on an atheist forum will believe you. That's exactly what it's like. Smile

I think if God really does that so often, there'd be a lot less atheists.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject:

SpecterOpacus wrote:

He doesn't even state which physicists are saying this.

Dr. Paul Davies, Physicist and Astrobiologist, Professor at Arizona State University...It's on his site at the link I posted for you. You should read the whole article.

It's an eye opener.

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