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Has anyone heard of thie? the infidelguy show had an ep on this and I don't know if anyone hear has heard of it?
80,000 people believe this!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Raelian movement |
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | Has anyone heard of thie? the infidelguy show had an ep on this and I don't know if anyone hear has heard of it?
80,000 people believe this!
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raëlian_beliefs_and_practices]Raelian belief and practices[/url] |
Yes, and all just because some race-driver told them so. I think theyre are some paralells with scientyology. Mad as a hatter, all of them afaic.
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They're atheists! They're on our side!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Raelian movement |
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| Gerard wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | Has anyone heard of thie? the infidelguy show had an ep on this and I don't know if anyone hear has heard of it?
80,000 people believe this!
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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raëlian_beliefs_and_practices]Raelian belief and practices[/url] |
Yes, and all just because some race-driver told them so. I think theyre are some paralells with scientyology. Mad as a hatter, all of them afaic.
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the founder was a race car driver? just like how scientology was amde up by a science fiction writer. 
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| Philosophos wrote: | | They're atheists! They're on our side! |
I know but there down grading evolution and saying it is directed.
I just got done listening to the show and and the guy being interveiwed and he said they don't believe in evolution.
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| Philosophos wrote: | | They're atheists! They're on our side! |
Wonderful. We get to count as our allies a bunch of kooks who believe we are really descended from a race of super-aliens. What's that old saying..."With friends like these..."
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| Philosophos wrote: | | They're atheists! They're on our side! |
there not real atheists.
(Ithink that the first time I have used that)
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What do they believe? That wiki article didn't really say...
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| Paranoia21 wrote: | | What do they believe? That wiki article didn't really say... |
Their beliefs make a lot of sense... if you're a schizophrenic lead-eater....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlian_beliefs_and_practices
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| Paranoia21 wrote: | | What do they believe? That wiki article didn't really say... |
Sorry I messed up on the second link be it was the link Philosophos gave so use that.
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It comes down to it that they believe that humanity was genetically engineered by..... the God of the bible. Who wasn't realy a God but an alien space traveller that was misunderstood for one. There were more misunderstandings. There were of course multiple Gods / spacetravellers. They mixed their vastly superior DNA with the DNA of the creatures they found on earth and so humanity was born and humanity then got help from their alien friends (whom they thought of as Gods) in building the pyramids and other endeavours. This whole episode was later recorded in the bible, albeit in a slightly misformed and poorly understood way. It does explain some of the crazy stuff in the Bible though. Also it explains the plural "Elohim" used in Genesis for God. This was all revealed to Rael by an alien from a UFO. The Raelians profess to be atheists. They don't believe in a God. They have enough other crazy beliefs to keep them busy though. They're also into cloning. They have stated that they have cloned one or two humans. They have spectacularly failed to come up with any evidence of this though!
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Its almost as funny as the Asian guy who has convince people that he is God in the flesh.
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | They're atheists! They're on our side! |
I know but there down grading evolution and saying it is directed. |
It is amusing to bring them up to intelligent design fuckwads who try to claim the designer they refer to isn't specifically the god of Genesis to get it in schools. Raelians are on the side of ID, but end up being an argument for our side.
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| FlatEarth1024 wrote: | | Philosophos wrote: | | They're atheists! They're on our side! |
Wonderful. We get to count as our allies a bunch of kooks who believe we are really descended from a race of super-aliens. What's that old saying..."With friends like these..." |
Of course they're our friends! I've never see a look of disgust come over a Christian ID's advocate's face as quickly as I have when I mention who their company is! 
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It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
Gerard
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