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tonyman1989
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| Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
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The aliens gave the revelation.
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Gerard
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
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The aliens gave the revelation.
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Or Vorrilhon (Rael)!
Gerard
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Raelian movement |
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | Has anyone heard of thie? the infidelguy show had an ep on this and I don't know if anyone hear has heard of it?
80,000 people believe this!
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Yep, they're batshit crazy, but still not as batshit crazy as scientologists.
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tonyman1989
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Raelian movement |
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| CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | Has anyone heard of thie? the infidelguy show had an ep on this and I don't know if anyone hear has heard of it?
80,000 people believe this!
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Yep, they're batshit crazy, but still not as batshit crazy as scientologists. |
Thats true.
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Paranoia21
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I'm actually not surprised that Tom Cruise is a Scientologist. He was out of his mind even before he released that info.
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tonyman1989
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Paranoia21 wrote: | | I'm actually not surprised that Tom Cruise is a Scientologist. He was out of his mind even before he released that info. |
How long ago did he release that?
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"We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realise that we are apes." Richard Dawkins
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
Gerard |
The aliens gave the revelation.
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It's mostly just an excuse to wife swap.
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tonyman1989
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| CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
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The aliens gave the revelation.
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It's mostly just an excuse to wife swap. |
True. I don't believe the founder really believe in this.
He's just using this "Religion" for money and fame.
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"For then we will know the mind of God." Stephen Hawking
"We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realise that we are apes." Richard Dawkins
http://www.atheistforums.com/weblog.php?w=22 Tonyman1989 blog's - updated on 8/28/07 - An interview of steven weinberg on religion |
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
Gerard |
The aliens gave the revelation.
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It's mostly just an excuse to wife swap. |
True. I don't believe the founder really believe in this.
He's just using this "Religion" for money and fame. |
Absolutely.
This should not even be a religion, it should be scientificaly proven, or thrown in the trash.
But the gullible do not question. They want to believe.
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| pr126 wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
Gerard |
The aliens gave the revelation.
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It's mostly just an excuse to wife swap. |
True. I don't believe the founder really believe in this.
He's just using this "Religion" for money and fame. |
Absolutely.
This should not even be a religion, it should be scientificaly proven, or thrown in the trash.
But the gullible do not question. They want to believe. |
They claim not to believe in evolution, so thats a big hit to there postion since evolution has been proven.
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"For then we will know the mind of God." Stephen Hawking
"We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realise that we are apes." Richard Dawkins
http://www.atheistforums.com/weblog.php?w=22 Tonyman1989 blog's - updated on 8/28/07 - An interview of steven weinberg on religion |
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The Raeleans ahve been a "godsend" to the ID movement, because their intelligent designer isn't an omnimax god, just a hyperintelligent alien.
Whenever it becomes too obvious that the IDers are talking about the Christian God, they just need to trot out a Raelean to babble until nobody knows what anyone's talking about anymore.
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Gerard
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | pr126 wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
Gerard |
The aliens gave the revelation.
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It's mostly just an excuse to wife swap. |
True. I don't believe the founder really believe in this.
He's just using this "Religion" for money and fame. |
Absolutely.
This should not even be a religion, it should be scientificaly proven, or thrown in the trash.
But the gullible do not question. They want to believe. |
They claim not to believe in evolution, so thats a big hit to there postion since evolution has been proven. |
Yes, it also occured to me that their beliefs are for a big part founded in and caused by the UFO phenomenon. The very notions of this "philiosophy" are a direct result of that phenomenon. Strangely however they seem to dismiss important aspects of the UFO phenomenon as such:
| Quote: | | There are civilizations out there watching us and they certainly don’t want to land here since we are still killing each other because of skin color [or religious beliefs]. They are too afraid to come here |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlian_beliefs_and_practices
Which puts big parts of the UFO phnenomenon (the whole "contact" thing) into question. It's a little strange to disavow the tennents of a belief that is a prerequisite to your own theories.
Gerard
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| tonyman1989 wrote: | | CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
Gerard |
The aliens gave the revelation.
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It's mostly just an excuse to wife swap. |
True. I don't believe the founder really believe in this.
He's just using this "Religion" for money and fame. |
He had money, fame, and wife swapping in mind. That's how he wrote the religion.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| CET wrote: | | He had money, fame, and wife swapping in mind. That's how he wrote the religion. |
You're making it sound less bad by the minute... stop that!
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tonyman1989
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| CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | CET wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | Gerard wrote: | It's a strange mix. There is no God but still there is a revelation these people believe in.
Gerard |
The aliens gave the revelation.
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It's mostly just an excuse to wife swap. |
True. I don't believe the founder really believe in this.
He's just using this "Religion" for money and fame. |
He had money, fame, and wife swapping in mind. That's how he wrote the religion. |
I think all religions start out that way.
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"For then we will know the mind of God." Stephen Hawking
"We admit that we are like apes, but we seldom realise that we are apes." Richard Dawkins
http://www.atheistforums.com/weblog.php?w=22 Tonyman1989 blog's - updated on 8/28/07 - An interview of steven weinberg on religion |
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