question for the reilgious

tonyman1989 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: question for the reilgious

If you love God so much why can't you appect his world as it is? I'm talking about EVOLUTION How does it hurt your faith?

I lived as a believer of God and evolution before I became an atheist I see no problem?
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sunamiren · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:34 am Post subject:

Never mind, America is continuing to push Creationism, soon no Christian will have to be forced to think analytically.

The world is forever sliding backwards.... I fear that we Atheists, Freethinkers, Rationalists, Skeptics, Scientists etc... are on a loosing battle. People don't want to live "reality"... they want a big Sky Daddy to be there for them. They love delusion, they love being lied to and they love fantasy. In this day and age, people are still so gullible, it's really really scary.

It really scares me sometimes when I have to watch Americans going down the Creation tube like this.

In Australia we don't have as yet: any Creation Museums, not that I know of, maybe someone Aussie can point me to one. If we start to follow America, in Religion as we follow America in Politics already, then we will be lost as well.

It's all here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6216788.stm

Excerpt from the article:

Everybody who works at the museum has to sign on to the belief that the living Earth was created in six 24-hour days - rejecting the convention most scientists view as fact, that life evolved slowly over millions of years.

To hammer that point home, two smiling children clad in tasteful animal skins, work and play alongside a pair of baby Tyrannosaurus Rex.

"You go to some of the major museums and dinosaurs are their teaching icon," said Mr Looy.

"We're going to turn that on its head, and use dinosaurs to show that the Bible presents the true history of the world. We have people, and dinosaurs, together. WTF?

tonyman1989 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:37 am Post subject:

I think atheism might keep growing look at any chart of reilgious belief and it just keeps raising. so lets hope reason and science win.
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sunamiren · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:57 am Post subject:

I keep asking the question, how "grown men and women" go to these places, and don't question their own minds and thoughts on the subject.

I am no expert on evolution, science, but I can dislodge the reasoning behind the Bible and all other religious beliefs as a tool to control the masses... keep them stupid and you will always have control.

Yet, these adults just can't see it. Well, I guess they don't want it.

It's so much easier to live in a delusion that to face life for what it is.

I recently watched the movie, "Happy Feet" which I liked, but then saw the raw documentary on these Emperor Penguins, and the hardships they face on the South Pole every year. It just makes me wonder where God comes in here..... to make Nature, animals, lets not even mention humans here, suffer like hell on this planet. Did the Penguins also have "free will?"... they don't get to even ask, "what the hell am I freezing my arse off here in the South Pole in 50 degree minus celcius? all to just then to get back to sea after four months of looking after the egg/chick, and be eaten by a huge Seal?

I can't watch Animal Planet shows anymore, where the tigers, lions etc catch a Zebra and eat it while it's still alive... I just can't watch these things anymore. I must be getting old and too sensitive to watching animals suffer.

Oh and dare I mention that Dubya Bush was in "awe" of meeting the Pope... in awe!!!! wow, that must have been some wonderful experience.... Very Happy

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wandering soul · Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject:

I would think that dinosaurs on Noah's ark would be bad for the Christian religion, but I'm not sure. Nothing amazes me anymore. It's truly sad.

James
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Jason_Harvestdancer · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:43 am Post subject:

That brush of yours is pretty broad, tonyman.
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kmisho · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject:

Here's where a little knowledge of American history can give us some hope. Crackpot spiritualism has had resurgences in America many times before and always been contained. That's not to say that it won't succeed and overpower this time, just that there is prescedent to think that it won't. The recent spate of atheist books and their popularity may be just the indicator we're looking for.
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