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tonyman1989
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| Quote: | | 1. it doesnt matter...god will not judge me if i think the earth is a few months old...hahaha |
yes it does.
| Quote: | | 2. i like to think the earth is hundreds of palyas old...if you dont know what a palya is...ill be happy to explain |
No I don't please do.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palya
Interesting....
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nice wiki article but ive heard it explained differently
say there was a mile deep hole...and its circumference was a mile as well
every 365 days a bird flies by and drops a fine hair into the hole
when the whole is filled...that is a palya
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josephpalazzo
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Duplication, sorry
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josephpalazzo
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | ColinTB wrote: | | im a believer and i accept evolution...theism and evolution can (and do) coexist |
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You're only 50% right... |
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that'll tell 'em, Joe.
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josephpalazzo
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| Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | | that'll tell 'em, Joe. |
Arrrgh...(frothing at the mouth) |
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kmisho
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| Isambard wrote: | which theism? Abrahamic theism? Yes because in their view humans are the pinnacle of creation where the universe is created for man.
In a grander religious view, such as belief in Brahman or a passive 'all existance' of 'abstract deity', evolution and faith can co-exist w/o conflict |
Sometimes I foget to qualify that theism means belief in 'the normal god' because, as it is the normal god, I don't see why I have to qualify it.
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| Philosophos wrote: | | tonyman1989 wrote: | | kmisho wrote: | | In Colin's defense, it's true that evolution does not inherently invalidate theism. It does sort of turn god into a 5th wheel though. |
only if you don't take it at it's word on every little thing. |
Oh - I totally agree, tony. I don't suggest taking it literally either.
I feel that "natural selection" is more a metaphor for the arbitrary yet sometimes cruel consumer preference in our materialistic society. Whereas "genetic drift" symbolizes the nonplussed GenXers, as they wander through the spiritual wasteland that post-modernity has wrought upon them - a nonchalant and vorbotten blending of "The Same" and "The Other." |
Tony, I meant theism as belief in the normal god.
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Isambard
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| kmisho wrote: | | Isambard wrote: | which theism? Abrahamic theism? Yes because in their view humans are the pinnacle of creation where the universe is created for man.
In a grander religious view, such as belief in Brahman or a passive 'all existance' of 'abstract deity', evolution and faith can co-exist w/o conflict |
Sometimes I foget to qualify that theism means belief in 'the normal god' because, as it is the normal god, I don't see why I have to qualify it. |
It would only be 'normal god' is christianity and islam were the only two religions or even the two main religions throughtout history. Its much more accurate using 'Abrahamic God' as its more specific and you avoid a blanket statement
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josephpalazzo
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| Isambard wrote: |
Its much more accurate using 'Abrahamic God' as its more specific and you avoid a blanket statement
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Sounds like another Frankenstein movie... |
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anamoly
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Okay....wtf is a normal god? just how the fuck do you define that...
and as for theism and evolution to coexist. It is possible becuase I was listening to NPR on a sunday on one of their faith shows they had this voodoo priest. it was strange becase they brought up dawkins and evolution and he was a very nice kind and polite and said he understands how dawkins can say such things (about supernatural and spirits and such) but he also goes on to say that evolution is not 'taboo' or unwelcomed in his voodoo religion. In fact, many of the followers accept it almost as if it were part of the religion itself because apparently that religion can reconcile new information with its own.... it was strange conversation, I'll have to find the show and see if I can link it....
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| Isambard wrote: | | kmisho wrote: | | Isambard wrote: | which theism? Abrahamic theism? Yes because in their view humans are the pinnacle of creation where the universe is created for man.
In a grander religious view, such as belief in Brahman or a passive 'all existance' of 'abstract deity', evolution and faith can co-exist w/o conflict |
Sometimes I foget to qualify that theism means belief in 'the normal god' because, as it is the normal god, I don't see why I have to qualify it. |
It would only be 'normal god' is christianity and islam were the only two religions or even the two main religions throughtout history. Its much more accurate using 'Abrahamic God' as its more specific and you avoid a blanket statement |
The abrahamic god is the dominant god-belief.
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Now this religion happens to prevail/Until by that one it is overthrown/Because men dare not live with men alone/But always with another fairy tale.
al-Ma'arri, Syrian Poet, died 1057
You deny the existence of 999 alleged Gods. I merely deny one more - yours.
John MacKinnon Robertson, "Godism" 1896
"Never is a long time." Robert Fripp, 1998
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josephpalazzo
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| anamoly wrote: | Okay....wtf is a normal god? just how the fuck do you define that...
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may I introduce you humans to our God...
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