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The Bris and Pedophilia
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: The Bris and Pedophilia Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Here's something that I had come across quite by accident the other night while watching TV. They were describing the tradition of how the Bris was performed by certain Haredi and Hasidic circles of Judaism. What caught my ear was the practice of Metzitzah b'peh ("suction by mouth") which is the process of using suction to remove blood from the circumcision site which is preformed by the mohel (a Jewish ritual circumciser) after he sanitizes his mouth with alcohol.

The foundation for the ritual of metzitzah is found in Mishnah Shabbat 19:2, which lists metzitzah as one of the four steps involved in the circumcision rite.

It is bad enough that this form of ritualistic mutilation is performed on a non-consenting infant, but to dull the pain inflicted they also get the infant drunk and afterward perform oral sex on them. Tradition without truth is but an old error.

To be fair I went and looked up circumcision as practiced by Muslims as well. Here is a link about Muslim circumcision and it doesn't have a similar rite either, but they do make the child's penis erect by stimulating it. It is still just as barbaric anyways.

http://www.circlist.com/rites/moslem.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Watch the Penn and Teller BULLSHIT episode on circumcision.

Unbelievable.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How ... repulsive.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

baddogma wrote:
Watch the Penn and Teller BULLSHIT episode on circumcision.

Unbelievable.


Is it basically what I had mentioned above?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

baddogma wrote:
Watch the Penn and Teller BULLSHIT episode on circumcision.

Unbelievable.


where can I find there eps?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Watch the Penn and Teller BULLSHIT episode on circumcision.

Unbelievable.


where can I find there eps?


Youtube has some, google videos may turn up clips...no punn intended.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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baddogma wrote:
Watch the Penn and Teller BULLSHIT episode on circumcision.

Unbelievable.


where can I find there eps?


Youtube has some, google videos may turn up clips...no punn intended.


I can't find whole eps.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hitchens also mentions this in God Is Not Great
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The only situation I've seen were circumcision is necessary is for something like my second oldest brother went through. At born his foreskin was sealed at the top so they had to remove it to allow him to pee, otherwise circumcision is totally unnecessary.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I tried to find it for you guys, but all my links are dead. I'll keep checking.
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Specus_Meretricis wrote:
I tried to find it for you guys, but all my links are dead. I'll keep checking.


That's strange? Why would all of these links go dead?
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It is copyrighted material. Google, youtube, and dailymotion often purge it. Which means I have to find someone who uploaded it at a hosted link, which is rare, but not impossible.
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Specus_Meretricis wrote:
I tried to find it for you guys, but all my links are dead. I'll keep checking.


thank you. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jack him, chop off 8,000 nerve endings, and then give him an alcohol soaked BJ?! Am I reading that right? Shocked
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If you have EMule, you can download them from http://sharethefiles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25782

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