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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1st of many questions... |
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| Whitefox wrote: | | anamoly wrote: | | Being an atheist doesn't mean that I make wrong decisions all the time and that I don't know how to fit in to society. It means I can make the decision to do the right thing for a lot of different reasons (and very logical ones) other than just some imaginary best friend whose son died on a cross. |
There is a common moral code that all of us share in common whether Christian or non-christian. The reasons for obeying it however vary. Freud said we need to free ourselves of our "inhibitians" regarding free-sex, of which he was an advocate. The Hippy generation of which I am a part of (I'm 47, perhaps the oldest poster here.) tried to do this as well. The reason why there are inhibitians however to overcome is because all of us have a basic concience which is the same. The bible calls becoming free from you inhibitians the same thing as searing your concience, rendering it innefective. The bible warns that as people habitually do this they become more and more depraved. The bible calls it walking in darkness. Even Christians are warned "let not your light be darkness.".
However there is a light which involves our understanding which goes beyond our knowledge of good and evil which until we enter into it the bible says we are walking in darkness.
John 1 says the darkness does not comprehend the light. You could grow up in a Christian home, exposed to the light but not comprehend it.
Another reason is also given in the bible for people not being willing to step into the light. It is that they do not want there deeds to be exposed. The concience would make a person aware of their deeds. Even in rejecting God it may be because of a guilty concience and an unwillingness to deal with it.
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I really don't think he's being preachy ....I think he's commenting on a human condition and yes he uses some verses from the bible but they are kind of enlightening. I really don't see the bible as the word of God or some absloute text that I must follow. But sometimes it can be used when discussing philosophy or morality. I did say that religion didn't have the monopoly on morality. But the Bible can provide some instances of applied morality. Kind of like Aesop's Fables. I am not offended that he brought it up.
There is some wisdom to be had in it but I would not hold it all entirely true nor relevant nor important. That's just me.
WhiteFox uses Freud and the Bible to comment on the human condition. At least I think. Please tell me if I was incorrect in that assumption, Whitefox.
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CET
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: 1st of many questions... |
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| Castro wrote: | | what do Atheists believe in? I mean as far as morals and such goes. Christains supposedly have morals b/c of their belief/faith in God, so they are governed by a set of rules. This is what keeps them moral. Without these "rules", such as Atheists live w/o, what kind of morals do they have? |
Atheists don't necessarily believe in anything. The only thing we have in common is that we do not accept the notion of a literal supernatural god.
As far as morals go; the Bible has justified slavery, genocide, patricide, misogyny, and racism. It hasn't done very well for giving us a good set of morals to live by. Most of us don't live by hardly any of the moral standards set in the Bible. Most of us end up using a pragmatic system for creating morals, living by those, and usually those of religious persuasion will say that their moral systems came from the bible, when in fact they did not.
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