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I guess I understand "purpose", I understand that it doesn't make any sense most of the time  . I think most people don't actually have one made up, or they have one that doesn't really make sense in the context of the word. The only ones that really fit the context of the word to me is someone who completely devots him/herself to something. Plus I think it's showing that it's something you don't really think about before a certain age.
Like Friend said the definition is "purpose - the reason for which something exists or is done, made, used, etc." which sounds theistic to me lol. I don't have a reason for being made outside of my parents humping and/or wanting a kid. And I don't really get how someone can give himself a reason for being made. I think passion is a better word |
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Benny23, yes, passion and thanks!Do keep up the good work and may you succeed at your health reform. I also have mental problem. Therapy has really helped. I am more extroverted now. What freedom!
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| Uncertainty wrote: | I guess I understand "purpose", I understand that it doesn't make any sense most of the time . I think most people don't actually have one made up, or they have one that doesn't really make sense in the context of the word. The only ones that really fit the context of the word to me is someone who completely devots him/herself to something. Plus I think it's showing that it's something you don't really think about before a certain age.
Like Friend said the definition is "purpose - the reason for which something exists or is done, made, used, etc." which sounds theistic to me lol. I don't have a reason for being made outside of my parents humping and/or wanting a kid. And I don't really get how someone can give himself a reason for being made. I think passion is a better word |
Purpose, in an atheistic view, is what purpose your give yourself. The goal or ideal you decided to dedicate your talents to. Without a purpose, or direction, one finds themselves just floating around from here to there and not really accomplishing much of anything. Such a life is inherently meaningless. Such a life makes little difference to the world at large. Those with a purpose make an impact on others and the world at large.
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Uncertainty
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| CET wrote: | | Uncertainty wrote: | I guess I understand "purpose", I understand that it doesn't make any sense most of the time . I think most people don't actually have one made up, or they have one that doesn't really make sense in the context of the word. The only ones that really fit the context of the word to me is someone who completely devots him/herself to something. Plus I think it's showing that it's something you don't really think about before a certain age.
Like Friend said the definition is "purpose - the reason for which something exists or is done, made, used, etc." which sounds theistic to me lol. I don't have a reason for being made outside of my parents humping and/or wanting a kid. And I don't really get how someone can give himself a reason for being made. I think passion is a better word |
Purpose, in an atheistic view, is what purpose your give yourself. The goal or ideal you decided to dedicate your talents to. Without a purpose, or direction, one finds themselves just floating around from here to there and not really accomplishing much of anything. Such a life is inherently meaningless. Such a life makes little difference to the world at large. Those with a purpose make an impact on others and the world at large. |
I don't really get how "inherently meaningless" follows from not giving yourself "one ideal" to dedicate yourself to. Maybe if you hate everyone who is just trying to live and enjoy themselves, or you think we all have some kind of obligation to improve the lives of others even if it hurts our own. |
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Sorry, I don't understand your response. 
You can either choose something to live for or meander through life with nothing special to live for. If that idea is painful, then you might consider taking a minute to come to terms with that pain.
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The Meaning of Life
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Why do you want to know the meaning of life?
Often people ask this question when they really want the answer to some other question. Let's try and get those people back on track with some "pre-meaning of life" advice: |
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Uncertainty
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| CET wrote: | Sorry, I don't understand your response.
You can either choose something to live for or meander through life with nothing special to live for. If that idea is painful, then you might consider taking a minute to come to terms with that pain. |
When did I say it was painful? O_o |
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| agnostic_one wrote: | The Meaning of Life
| Quote: | Let's step back a moment...
Why do you want to know the meaning of life?
Often people ask this question when they really want the answer to some other question. Let's try and get those people back on track with some "pre-meaning of life" advice: |
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I enjoyed that link, agnostic_one! I read part II all the way through. Interesting ideas 
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It is a theistic non-sequitur to maintain that ,because there is no purpose to the cosmos and us that there are no human purposes. More theistic logicide!
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See Robert M.Prices "The Reason Diven Life" for a good read on purpose!I don't need a divine shepher for anything. I am not mere clay a divine potter has the right to mess around with!
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