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 Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:07 am Post subject: Post Modernism |
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http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32266
| Quote: | | CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA—The "postmodern" condition of alienated, disjointed late-20th-century humanity was officially upgraded to "pre-apocalyptic" Monday, when new findings from leading postmodernist theorist Richard Rorty were published in the new issue of Semiotexte. "I was flipping through the cable channels the other night, trying to get an abstract sense of the way emergent processes of change and transformation generated by contemporary high-tech society are challenging cultural assumptions regarding diverse aesthetic forms to create a novel state of history," Rorty said, "when, all of a sudden, I realized that everything I was looking at was the biggest load of unimaginably horrific crap ever." At this point in the socio-cultural discourse, Rorty said, the key question is no longer whether or not social fragmentation, cultural meta-juxtaposition and socioeconomic problematics require new modes of experience and interpretation, but rather, "When will the seven-headed dragon of the End Times descend upon us all in unholy fury?" |
i love it when the Onion is funny... and true.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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thats funny, but more bizarre than anything else. people at the onion know about rorty? figures
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: Re: Post Modernism |
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| Moloth wrote: | http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32266
| Quote: | | CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA—The "postmodern" condition of alienated, disjointed late-20th-century humanity was officially upgraded to "pre-apocalyptic" Monday, when new findings from leading postmodernist theorist Richard Rorty were published in the new issue of Semiotexte. "I was flipping through the cable channels the other night, trying to get an abstract sense of the way emergent processes of change and transformation generated by contemporary high-tech society are challenging cultural assumptions regarding diverse aesthetic forms to create a novel state of history," Rorty said, "when, all of a sudden, I realized that everything I was looking at was the biggest load of unimaginably horrific crap ever." At this point in the socio-cultural discourse, Rorty said, the key question is no longer whether or not social fragmentation, cultural meta-juxtaposition and socioeconomic problematics require new modes of experience and interpretation, but rather, "When will the seven-headed dragon of the End Times descend upon us all in unholy fury?" |
i love it when the Onion is funny... and true. |
Before I read your comment below it, I was thinking, "wow that is actually pretty true". They really should change it to pre-apocalyptic times. The zeitgeist now post 9/11 and with the war and everything is definitely headed more towards that way of thinking than a post modern world. And there is SHIT on television and movies these days. 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: |
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fyi richard rorty hates post-modernism
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| Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| Rortykiller wrote: | | fyi richard rorty hates post-modernism |
well, hes got that going for him.
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As someone who has recently taken up an interest in the study of the Humanities (Modernism in particular) I'm still having a hard time trying to pin down just what "Post-Modernism" is but from I've read of it so far....well, I like their optimisim and desire to see things in a different light but I perfer Modernist thought over Post-Modernist thought, as I've read of it thus far...
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| tinker683 wrote: | | As someone who has recently taken up an interest in the study of the Humanities (Modernism in particular) I'm still having a hard time trying to pin down just what "Post-Modernism" is but from I've read of it so far....well, I like their optimisim and desire to see things in a different light but I perfer Modernist thought over Post-Modernist thought, as I've read of it thus far... |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_modernism
"Postmodernism literally means 'after the modernist movement'. While "modern" itself refers to something "related to the present", the movement of modernism and the following reaction of postmodernism are defined by a set of perspectives. It is used in critical theory to refer to a point of departure for works of literature, drama, architecture, and design, as well as in marketing and business and the interpretation of history, law and culture in the late 20th century. Unfortunately, there is no authoritative definition yet."
buuuuut...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_modernism#Criticism
"The term postmodernism, when used pejoratively, describes tendencies perceived as relativist, counter-enlightenment or antimodern, particularly in relation to critiques of rationalism, universalism or science. It is also sometimes used to describe tendencies in a society that are held to be antithetical to traditional systems of morality. Elements of the Christian Right, in particular, have interpreted postmodern society to be synonymous with moral relativism and contributing to deviant behavior.[18][19] See, Postmodernity, subsection "Anti-postmodernity critiques.""
its basically the "well, real knowledge is meaningless, facts are opinions, no one can actually KNOW anything, so just believe whatever the fuck you want" school of thought.
and this is how it makes me feel:
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| tinker683 wrote: | | As someone who has recently taken up an interest in the study of the Humanities (Modernism in particular) I'm still having a hard time trying to pin down just what "Post-Modernism" is but from I've read of it so far....well, I like their optimisim and desire to see things in a different light but I perfer Modernist thought over Post-Modernist thought, as I've read of it thus far... |
Post Modernism was more an attempt to put a group of people into a category prematurely. Its not like during the enlightenment people were calling it the enlightenment. Similarly, no one attributed with being a post-modernist is really that devoted to some unified theory. In fact, its all about creating atheori (or anti-theories) for many philosophers in the Ironist Tradition (often called post-modernists). Post modernism in art is equally stupid sounding (as an artist). Art for art sakes? Shut the fuck up, I say.
Those wiki articles are further proof that no one knows what post-modernism means (because its meaningless).
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