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Do people hate God, or just his representatives?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Do people hate God, or just his representatives? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Atheism is not bad. Every movement like this is God's response to hypocrisy in the dominant body of people saying, "I come in the name of God." Atheism is the outward appearance of things that God is pissed off about in the heart of the ones who claim him. Atheism pleases God, because it is his response to what is the central issue in people saying, "I am a Christian."

Note, "name" is the label applied to what the name embodies, and universally, God commonly embodies something akin to what the allegorical account of Moses watching God pass by embodies.
Example: When my daughter says, "Daddy", she's summarizing, "The one who gets the bottle for me".
So it's the heart of God, which the name is only a shadow based on language.

But here is the central issue. So Have at me. Your rebukes help my thinking.

Quick summary: People hated to do what Christians preached because the Christians were requiring people to give according to the bible, but would not give themselves.

If people hate Christ, it is only a repeat of what has happened before. And then it was clearly identified:
1Sa 2:12 Now the sons of Eli were sons of Belial; they knew not the LORD.
1Sa 2:13 And the priests' custom with the people was, that, when any man offered sacrifice, the priest's servant came, while the flesh was in seething, with a fleshhook of three teeth in his hand;
1Sa 2:14 And he struck it into the pan, or kettle, or caldron, or pot; all that the fleshhook brought up the priest took for himself. So they did in Shiloh unto all the Israelites that came thither.
1Sa 2:15 Also before they burnt the fat, the priest's servant came, and said to the man that sacrificed, Give flesh to roast for the priest; for he will not have sodden flesh of thee, but raw.
1Sa 2:16 And if any man said unto him, Let them not fail to burn the fat presently, and then take as much as thy soul desireth; then he would answer him, Nay; but thou shalt give it me now: and if not, I will take it by force.
1Sa 2:17 Wherefore the sin of the young men was very great before the LORD: for men abhorred the offering of the LORD.

Men hated the offering because of the hypocrisy of the Christian. This is important.
The burden is not on the atheists. It is on the preachers who created Atheism.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How can one hate something when they have no evidence of its very existence?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

joshuas3521 wrote:
How can one hate something when they have no evidence of its very existence?


Because everyone in their heart says "Eat my ass God" when things don't go their way.
It is universal that at my lowest point, I know who to cast my blame upon.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

i cannot hate god, it doesnt exist

and no, i dont blame god when things wrong so its not universal as you claim
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

isixylixsis wrote:
joshuas3521 wrote:
How can one hate something when they have no evidence of its very existence?


Because everyone in their heart says "Eat my ass God" when things don't go their way.
It is universal that at my lowest point, I know who to cast my blame upon.


At my lowest point I cast my blame on factors that are unpredictable due to my limited knowledge of all things relevant to the situation :3
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I will agree with the other posters here. How can I hate somthing that doesnt exist?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

isixylixsis wrote:
joshuas3521 wrote:
How can one hate something when they have no evidence of its very existence?


Because everyone in their heart says "Eat my ass God" when things don't go their way.
It is universal that at my lowest point, I know who to cast my blame upon.


I'm pretty sure I don't blame your God, or any god for that matter, when things don't go my way.

When my beloved uncle died, I didn't ask, "Why, God?" I knew why. He had cancer, and the diagnostics that the hospital ran let the doctors know that he only had a few months to live when first diagnosed.

When my best friend committed suicide a decade ago, I didn't ask, "Why, God?" I knew why. He had depression and finally made the unfortunate decision to take a drastic step instead of visiting a psychiatrist.

When my mother was diagnosed with cancer, I didn't say "Eat my ass, God." I'm more than positive that I never even thought about the supernatural in the slightest. I'm pretty sure I was consumed with worry and driven to secure quick and effective treatment options.

When my most recent pet, a 3 lb. Yorkshire terrier named Mitzi had a stroke and I had to have her euthanized, I was beside myself, but I didn't ever blame anybody for it - she was 18 years old and if it hadn't have been a stroke, it'd have been something else pretty soon anyway.

Point being, I've had a lot of 'low' points before - and I've never thought to myself, "Nuts to you, God. Nuts to you."

Your assertion that atheists do this is just as valid as my counter assertion that, deep down, you Christians all know in your hearts that the Easter Bunny and his basket of chocolate eggs is real, and when something bad happens to you, you reach out for a piece of his delicious chocolately goodness.

In fact, the movement of people who claim that the Easter Bunny is nothing more than a cartoon character made up as an interesting play-idea for children (like the tooth fairy and the monster-in-my-closet, which we all agree are fake), are actually the voice of the Easter Bunny telling his disciples that they aren't reaching out for his chocolately treats at the right times or in the right quantities.

See the problem with that analysis, and how it relates directly to your own?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

WashMDJD wrote:
isixylixsis wrote:
joshuas3521 wrote:
How can one hate something when they have no evidence of its very existence?


Because everyone in their heart says "Eat my ass God" when things don't go their way.
It is universal that at my lowest point, I know who to cast my blame upon.


I'm pretty sure I don't blame your God, or any god for that matter, when things don't go my way.

When my beloved uncle died, I didn't ask, "Why, God?" I knew why. He had cancer, and the diagnostics that the hospital ran let the doctors know that he only had a few months to live when first diagnosed.

When my best friend committed suicide a decade ago, I didn't ask, "Why, God?" I knew why. He had depression and finally made the unfortunate decision to take a drastic step instead of visiting a psychiatrist.

When my mother was diagnosed with cancer, I didn't say "Eat my ass, God." I'm more than positive that I never even thought about the supernatural in the slightest. I'm pretty sure I was consumed with worry and driven to secure quick and effective treatment options.

When my most recent pet, a 3 lb. Yorkshire terrier named Mitzi had a stroke and I had to have her euthanized, I was beside myself, but I didn't ever blame anybody for it - she was 18 years old and if it hadn't have been a stroke, it'd have been something else pretty soon anyway.

Point being, I've had a lot of 'low' points before - and I've never thought to myself, "Nuts to you, God. Nuts to you."

Your assertion that atheists do this is just as valid as my counter assertion that, deep down, you Christians all know in your hearts that the Easter Bunny and his basket of chocolate eggs is real, and when something bad happens to you, you reach out for a piece of his delicious chocolately goodness.

In fact, the movement of people who claim that the Easter Bunny is nothing more than a cartoon character made up as an interesting play-idea for children (like the tooth fairy and the monster-in-my-closet, which we all agree are fake), are actually the voice of the Easter Bunny telling his disciples that they aren't reaching out for his chocolately treats at the right times or in the right quantities.

See the problem with that analysis, and how it relates directly to your own?


No.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

isixylixsis wrote:
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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If you add up the numbers in your name, you have more than my IQ.
Bear with me, or don't, but I didn't know how to respond to your post other than, "No."
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I hate RELIGION, not God/s. God/s do not exist.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

baddogma wrote:
I hate RELIGION, not God/s. God/s do not exist.

God hates religion too.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

you cant hate something that doesnt exist
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Siderius wrote:
I will agree with the other posters here. How can I hate somthing that doesnt exist?

You can't, because God doesn't exist.
It's like this.
You think you're looking at a cell, but we know that finite divisions are imposed for the sake of clarity and understanding.
God is so subtle that you can never hate him for this reason: You can't know him well enough to kill him.
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you cant hate something that doesnt exist

Something that doesn't exist hasn't entered into your understanding. Everything exists in eternity. But now God is not part of your understanding.
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