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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject:
Moloth wrote:
i have to admit.. it would be cool if this were real...
Yeah. It would be really cool hearing things like "Humans and Bigfoot share a common ancestor." _________________ "If we long to believe that the stars rise and set for us, that we are the reason there is a Universe, does science do us a disservice in deflating our conceits?"
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject:
Meanwhile:
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Quote:
On Friday, Whitton acknowledged creating a pair of videos posted on the Internet video site YouTube, one in which his brother poses as a scientist and another in which Whitton briefly seems to admit that the body is a fake.
"It seems that the stalkers have busted us in a hoax," he says in the video. But then adds, "we still have a corpse. We just wanted to give you something to do for the weekend."
The press conference wasn't public. Only credentialed journalists were there. Somehow I don't think we'll hear an awfull lot more about this.....
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject:
Wrong. The press conference was on CNN. You can watch it on YouTube.
Most indications state this is a fruad. A lot of bigfoot experts are not trusting the story and find the man these two rednecks turned to as suspicious. They promised to give DNA evidence at the conference. I'm not sure if this happend for I did not see it all, but if it's real or not...that will tell. Secondly, these people said they would reveal the body itself soon. I'm going to keep tabs on this story, but I am siding with the other "experts." This is most likely a fraud. _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject:
Vyrian wrote:
Wrong. The press conference was on CNN. You can watch it on YouTube.
Most indications state this is a fruad. A lot of bigfoot experts are not trusting the story and find the man these two rednecks turned to as suspicious. They promised to give DNA evidence at the conference. I'm not sure if this happend for I did not see it all, but if it's real or not...that will tell. Secondly, these people said they would reveal the body itself soon. I'm going to keep tabs on this story, but I am siding with the other "experts." This is most likely a fraud.
"Most likely" doesn't even begin to express the likelyhood of this being a fraud. I have no serious doubts anymore (if I ever did) that it is a fraud. I didn't see the press conference, but I'll look it up on youtube!
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject:
Quote:
I just watched the coming-out party for Bigfoot at a news conference in Palo Alto, California. Bigfoot did not attend. The participants included a publicist; veteran Bigfoot hunter Tom Biscardi; and the two alleged discoverers of a Bigfoot carcass in the state of Georgia — prison guard Rick Dyer and police officer Matthew Whitton.
Biscardi showed a photo of the tongue and teeth of Bigfoot (as one blog commenter pointed out, Bigfoot obviously practiced awesome dental hygiene!) and an indiscernible photo of another Bigfoot said to be alive and walking away from the camera. That’s it. They released a purported DNA result, although it was uncertain if the DNA info was supposed to be compared to other primates (it certainly couldn’t be compared to other Bigfoot — or is it Bigfeet?).
Audio quality for the press conference was poor; there was no explanation of why the announcement would be made thousands of miles away from Bigfoot’s location (he’s in a freezer, somewhere here in the Atlanta area), but there was an assertion that access to Bigfoot would be very selective.
Biscardi, the professional Bigfoot hunter, did most of the talking. He promised to involve credentialed scientists, and dropped the name of Richard Klein, a Stanford University anthropologist. Dr. Klein was conveniently out of town, even though the press conference was held down the block from Stanford. I’ve left him a message inquiring if he’s really involved with this.
The whole affair had a familiar ring to it:
Nearly six years ago, there was a media frenzy around the reports of the first cloned human. “Eve” was born the day after Christmas, fortuitously appearing during a dependably slow news week. Who unveiled that fantastic development? A cultish group called the Raelians, who believe that space aliens created life on earth, and who said a second cloned baby was on the way. But after a barrage of skeptical questions and a refusal by the Raelians to show us the baby or allow outside inspection (citing respect for privacy — not exactly a logical follow-up step if you’ve just held multiple press conferences), the Raelians disappeared. So did talk of a second baby, and the first baby hasn’t been seen to this day.
The Bigfoot hunters, Biscardi, Dyer, and Whitton, certainly aren’t cultists. Whitton and Dyer seemed like nice Georgia boys. But they’re following a time-honored tradition of hucksterism, for which there’s a voracious public appetite.
Okay, boys. Show us the proof. Let the experts establish the proof, and the stage is yours. Otherwise, put a sock in it, and go hide in the woods. Maybe you’ll grow into a legend.
Peter Dykstra Executive Producer CNN Science & Technology
He mentiones the Raelian clone. Funny because that had crossed my mind as well.
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject:
Omg, they killed and dyed the body of Dr. Hank McCoy! That's the Beast from X-Men! Oh noooessss!!!! _________________ Kimberly (HSBUH) aka
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: hoax
Well........
It's all just hearsay but someone in the sasquatch business says he has heard that the whole thing is indeed a rubber hoax.
Quote:
The hoax was discovered after an "expedited melting process," Kulls wrote. "A break appeared up near the feet area ... as the team and I began examining this area near the feet, I observed the foot which looked unnatural, reached in and confirmed it was a rubber foot."
Kulls said he contacted Tom Biscardi, the self-described "Real Bigfoot Hunter" who has been searching since 1971 for the creature of legend and appeared alongside Whitton and Dyer at the news conference.
"Later that day, Tom Biscardi informed us that both Matthew Whitton and Ricky Dyer admitted it was a costume," the posting said.
Whitton and Dyer reportedly agreed to sign a promissory note and an admission of the hoax and meet with Biscardi at their hotel on Sunday. But when Biscardi went to the hotel, the two had left, Kulls wrote.
"At this time, action is being instigated against the perpetrators," the posting said, adding that the motives behind the claims were unknown. iReport.com: Do you believe in Bigfoot?
The posting said Biscardi's organization, Searching for Bigfoot Inc., "is seeking justice for themselves and for all the people who were deceived by this deception."
Kulls did not immediately return a call to the Squatchdetective contact number. A woman answering the phone at Searching for Bigfoot Inc. said Biscardi had been ill and said she was not sure when he would be returning calls.
A number listed as belonging to Matthew Whitton was disconnected as of Tuesday. Efforts to locate a phone number for Dyer on Tuesday were unsuccessful.
Dyer and Whitton failed to show up Monday for a scheduled appearance on CNN's "American Morning."
Kulls said that at the time he first interviewed Dyer on July 28 for the radio program, he suspected the duo's motive was financial. On August 12, he said, the two "requested an undisclosed sum of money as an advance, expected from the marketing and promotion."
SearchingForBigfoot.com has confirmed that the two Georgia men who claimed they found Bigfoot were lying.
The Web site said that Matthew Whitton and Ricky Dyer delivered the freezer containing the reported remains of the Bigfoot the day after the press conference that they called for. It also said that Whitton and Dyer were given an undisclosed amount of money from Searching For Bigfoot before they went public with their find.
As soon as he learned it was a hoax, Clayton County Police Chief Jeff Turner moved to have Whitton fired
Quote:
After the Searching For Bigfoot team and "The Real Bigfoot Hunter" Tom Biscardi began to thaw out the creature in a 1,500 lb. cooler of ice, they discovered it was a rubber suit. Biscardi contacted Whitton and Dyer and they agreed to admit the truth to the public. When Biscardi arrived at their hotel, the pair had vanished.
Makes you wonder what would make anyone think they could pull off a stunt like that....
Seems monumentally stupid to me.
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
But as man exists in nature, I am not authorized to say that his formation, is above the power of nature.
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Not collecting stamps is my hobby.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject:
SvZurich wrote:
Omg, they killed and dyed the body of Dr. Hank McCoy! That's the Beast from X-Men! Oh noooessss!!!!
Your're just pissed off that they killed your girlfriend... _________________ “I think it’s also important for the President to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
-- George W. Bush on Clinton's involvement in Kosovo, 1999
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: hoax
Gerard wrote:
Well........
It's all just hearsay but someone in the sasquatch business says he has heard that the whole thing is indeed a rubber hoax.
Quote:
The hoax was discovered after an "expedited melting process," Kulls wrote. "A break appeared up near the feet area ... as the team and I began examining this area near the feet, I observed the foot which looked unnatural, reached in and confirmed it was a rubber foot."
Kulls said he contacted Tom Biscardi, the self-described "Real Bigfoot Hunter" who has been searching since 1971 for the creature of legend and appeared alongside Whitton and Dyer at the news conference.
"Later that day, Tom Biscardi informed us that both Matthew Whitton and Ricky Dyer admitted it was a costume," the posting said.
Whitton and Dyer reportedly agreed to sign a promissory note and an admission of the hoax and meet with Biscardi at their hotel on Sunday. But when Biscardi went to the hotel, the two had left, Kulls wrote.
"At this time, action is being instigated against the perpetrators," the posting said, adding that the motives behind the claims were unknown. iReport.com: Do you believe in Bigfoot?
The posting said Biscardi's organization, Searching for Bigfoot Inc., "is seeking justice for themselves and for all the people who were deceived by this deception."
Kulls did not immediately return a call to the Squatchdetective contact number. A woman answering the phone at Searching for Bigfoot Inc. said Biscardi had been ill and said she was not sure when he would be returning calls.
A number listed as belonging to Matthew Whitton was disconnected as of Tuesday. Efforts to locate a phone number for Dyer on Tuesday were unsuccessful.
Dyer and Whitton failed to show up Monday for a scheduled appearance on CNN's "American Morning."
Kulls said that at the time he first interviewed Dyer on July 28 for the radio program, he suspected the duo's motive was financial. On August 12, he said, the two "requested an undisclosed sum of money as an advance, expected from the marketing and promotion."
SearchingForBigfoot.com has confirmed that the two Georgia men who claimed they found Bigfoot were lying.
The Web site said that Matthew Whitton and Ricky Dyer delivered the freezer containing the reported remains of the Bigfoot the day after the press conference that they called for. It also said that Whitton and Dyer were given an undisclosed amount of money from Searching For Bigfoot before they went public with their find.
As soon as he learned it was a hoax, Clayton County Police Chief Jeff Turner moved to have Whitton fired
Quote:
After the Searching For Bigfoot team and "The Real Bigfoot Hunter" Tom Biscardi began to thaw out the creature in a 1,500 lb. cooler of ice, they discovered it was a rubber suit. Biscardi contacted Whitton and Dyer and they agreed to admit the truth to the public. When Biscardi arrived at their hotel, the pair had vanished.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: hoax
Mr_C wrote:
These people just need to believe harder...
I daresay mr. Biscardi wished he hadn't believed as hard as he did. He doesn't come out of this looking all that clever....
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
But as man exists in nature, I am not authorized to say that his formation, is above the power of nature.
Paul Henri Thiry Baron d' Holbach, (1723-1789)
Not collecting stamps is my hobby.
Gerard, (1962-*)
When the guy told how heartwrenching it was, I couldn't help laughing. I'm a bad person you know!
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
But as man exists in nature, I am not authorized to say that his formation, is above the power of nature.
Paul Henri Thiry Baron d' Holbach, (1723-1789)
Not collecting stamps is my hobby.
Gerard, (1962-*)
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:09 am Post subject:
Vyrian wrote:
Wrong. The press conference was on CNN. You can watch it on YouTube.
Most indications state this is a fruad. A lot of bigfoot experts are not trusting the story and find the man these two rednecks turned to as suspicious. They promised to give DNA evidence at the conference. I'm not sure if this happend for I did not see it all, but if it's real or not...that will tell. Secondly, these people said they would reveal the body itself soon. I'm going to keep tabs on this story, but I am siding with the other "experts." This is most likely a fraud.
it's funny they call themselves "bigfoot experts" even though we have yet to come in direct contact with a "bigfoot"
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