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I thought I was a dork, these people are fucking loony.
Just got done watching, that rolling on the floor...how pathetic, your grown up for *cough* christ's sake.
Some people...
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lol at the guy just sitting down in the front row, he must feel special...
Im worried about the guy on the floor, looks like hes having an epileptic fit...
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| Shiranu wrote: | I thought I was a dork, these people are fucking loony.
Just got done watching, that rolling on the floor...how pathetic, your grown up for *cough* christ's sake.
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Your attitude is a meme that needs to be broken  No offense but your perception of what grown ups should be or should act like is in my opinion like a dogma and it isn't your fault. It is so solidified that it will take some work to loosen up billions of people.
Those same adults could be smoking pot or doing drugs or drink and acting similarly and that would be cool. So here we have a "religious" event where tight asses actually get to loosen up and not have to "act' mature all of the time. It feels really great to not have to worry about whether the dance we are doing is proper or what we look like or just being silly.
Unfortunately adults have been assigned behavior for generations that take out a lot of fun in life. It is new times, we are people who are carving our own lives and don't want to quit having fun just because we pass a magic age. That's why the bible mentions something like being drunk in the spirit. For those who don't want to have to take a chemical, it can be fun to let it "all hang out" in groups such as that. If it takes a church so be it IMO. |
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| ShaSha wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | I thought I was a dork, these people are fucking loony.
Just got done watching, that rolling on the floor...how pathetic, your grown up for *cough* christ's sake.
Some people... |
Your attitude is a meme that needs to be broken No offense but your perception of what grown ups should be or should act like is in my opinion like a dogma and it isn't your fault. It is so solidified that it will take some work to loosen up billions of people.
Those same adults could be smoking pot or doing drugs or drink and acting similarly and that would be cool. So here we have a "religious" event where tight asses actually get to loosen up and not have to "act' mature all of the time. It feels really great to not have to worry about whether the dance we are doing is proper or what we look like or just being silly.
Unfortunately adults have been assigned behavior for generations that take out a lot of fun in life. It is new times, we are people who are carving our own lives and don't want to quit having fun just because we pass a magic age. That's why the bible mentions something like being drunk in the spirit. For those who don't want to have to take a chemical, it can be fun to let it "all hang out" in groups such as that. If it takes a church so be it IMO. |
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| Moloth wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | I thought I was a dork, these people are fucking loony.
Just got done watching, that rolling on the floor...how pathetic, your grown up for *cough* christ's sake.
Some people... |
Your attitude is a meme that needs to be broken No offense but your perception of what grown ups should be or should act like is in my opinion like a dogma and it isn't your fault. It is so solidified that it will take some work to loosen up billions of people.
Those same adults could be smoking pot or doing drugs or drink and acting similarly and that would be cool. So here we have a "religious" event where tight asses actually get to loosen up and not have to "act' mature all of the time. It feels really great to not have to worry about whether the dance we are doing is proper or what we look like or just being silly.
Unfortunately adults have been assigned behavior for generations that take out a lot of fun in life. It is new times, we are people who are carving our own lives and don't want to quit having fun just because we pass a magic age. That's why the bible mentions something like being drunk in the spirit. For those who don't want to have to take a chemical, it can be fun to let it "all hang out" in groups such as that. If it takes a church so be it IMO. |
ShaSha: defending delusional lunacy since (at least) 21 Oct 2003 |
Moloth, trolling me since then also he can't think beyond his bias of the word theist and can't debate issues but only throw one liners that say nothing but he thinks are intelligent ?
Moloth who has no life and thus no life experience to know his shit?
Seriously, Moloth, how many adults do you know who are relaxed enough to just have fun without being an actor or being on alterations such as drugs or alcohol?
I speak also from my own experience. Catholics had their ceremonies very seriously, very uncheerfully. The more modern churches have taken a "joyous noise unto the Lord" and there might be clapping and cheering during those services.
Kids are great for no religion and no rigidity. Schools and religions take all of that out of humans and lots of the hangups we have is the fact that we can't wiggle our butt or skip through the halls just for the fun of it. We become robots of society. I don't care for religion that stifles or has dogma. But if the only crime in that video is that some adults loosen up then I am glad to "defend lunacy".
It took me a few years to loosen up to the point of being able to skip down a hallway as an adult for no reason other than the joy of it. Lunacy? More of it please |
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Moloth
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| ShaSha wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | I thought I was a dork, these people are fucking loony.
Just got done watching, that rolling on the floor...how pathetic, your grown up for *cough* christ's sake.
Some people... |
Your attitude is a meme that needs to be broken No offense but your perception of what grown ups should be or should act like is in my opinion like a dogma and it isn't your fault. It is so solidified that it will take some work to loosen up billions of people.
Those same adults could be smoking pot or doing drugs or drink and acting similarly and that would be cool. So here we have a "religious" event where tight asses actually get to loosen up and not have to "act' mature all of the time. It feels really great to not have to worry about whether the dance we are doing is proper or what we look like or just being silly.
Unfortunately adults have been assigned behavior for generations that take out a lot of fun in life. It is new times, we are people who are carving our own lives and don't want to quit having fun just because we pass a magic age. That's why the bible mentions something like being drunk in the spirit. For those who don't want to have to take a chemical, it can be fun to let it "all hang out" in groups such as that. If it takes a church so be it IMO. |
ShaSha: defending delusional lunacy since (at least) 21 Oct 2003 |
Moloth, trolling me since then also he can't think beyond his bias of the word theist and can't debate issues but only throw one liners that say nothing but he thinks are intelligent ?
Moloth who has no life and thus no life experience to know his shit?
Seriously, Moloth, how many adults do you know who are relaxed enough to just have fun without being an actor or being on alterations such as drugs or alcohol?
I speak also from my own experience. Catholics had their ceremonies very seriously, very uncheerfully. The more modern churches have taken a "joyous noise unto the Lord" and there might be clapping and cheering during those services.
Kids are great for no religion and no rigidity. Schools and religions take all of that out of humans and lots of the hangups we have is the fact that we can't wiggle our butt or skip through the halls just for the fun of it. We become robots of society. I don't care for religion that stifles or has dogma. But if the only crime in that video is that some adults loosen up then I am glad to "defend lunacy".
It took me a few years to loosen up to the point of being able to skip down a hallway as an adult for no reason other than the joy of it. Lunacy? More of it please |
if YOU cannot see the difference between "skipping down the hall" and insane religious practices, then that is merely further proof of your disconnection from reality.
this is not an issue about "being able to loosen up and have fun"... this is about the insane delusion of people who think they're being effected by a supernatural force to speak in tongues, hoot, holler, roll around on the ground, foam at the mouth, handle snakes, pay gobs of money to a 'faith-healer and countless other harmful or potentially harmful actions while under the influence of delusional dogma.
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I often wonder what would happen if these people had the epiphany that there was actually no god at all. Would they be embarrassed by their actions?
That's probably the reason why the evangelicals/fundamentalists such as this lot hang onto religious belief and defend it with such gross tenacity.
Because if they've been wrong this whole time, boy do they look foolish.
Certain types of people you catch in a lie will pad that lie to defend questioning instead of owning up. I find this is right along the same vein as not wanting to be wrong.
Humans are fucking fascinating.
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something just occurred to me..
the witch hunts.
the religion of the time gave people an 'outlet' for the sexual shame and repression that had heaped upon them for generations. they would strip down and 'examine' young women to look for 'marks of the beast'.
Religion is the cause, not the solution, of unhappiness and repression in society.
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ShaSha
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| Moloth wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | ShaSha wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | I thought I was a dork, these people are fucking loony.
Just got done watching, that rolling on the floor...how pathetic, your grown up for *cough* christ's sake.
Some people... |
Your attitude is a meme that needs to be broken No offense but your perception of what grown ups should be or should act like is in my opinion like a dogma and it isn't your fault. It is so solidified that it will take some work to loosen up billions of people.
Those same adults could be smoking pot or doing drugs or drink and acting similarly and that would be cool. So here we have a "religious" event where tight asses actually get to loosen up and not have to "act' mature all of the time. It feels really great to not have to worry about whether the dance we are doing is proper or what we look like or just being silly.
Unfortunately adults have been assigned behavior for generations that take out a lot of fun in life. It is new times, we are people who are carving our own lives and don't want to quit having fun just because we pass a magic age. That's why the bible mentions something like being drunk in the spirit. For those who don't want to have to take a chemical, it can be fun to let it "all hang out" in groups such as that. If it takes a church so be it IMO. |
ShaSha: defending delusional lunacy since (at least) 21 Oct 2003 |
Moloth, trolling me since then also he can't think beyond his bias of the word theist and can't debate issues but only throw one liners that say nothing but he thinks are intelligent ?
Moloth who has no life and thus no life experience to know his shit?
Seriously, Moloth, how many adults do you know who are relaxed enough to just have fun without being an actor or being on alterations such as drugs or alcohol?
I speak also from my own experience. Catholics had their ceremonies very seriously, very uncheerfully. The more modern churches have taken a "joyous noise unto the Lord" and there might be clapping and cheering during those services.
Kids are great for no religion and no rigidity. Schools and religions take all of that out of humans and lots of the hangups we have is the fact that we can't wiggle our butt or skip through the halls just for the fun of it. We become robots of society. I don't care for religion that stifles or has dogma. But if the only crime in that video is that some adults loosen up then I am glad to "defend lunacy".
It took me a few years to loosen up to the point of being able to skip down a hallway as an adult for no reason other than the joy of it. Lunacy? More of it please |
if YOU cannot see the difference between "skipping down the hall" and insane religious practices, then that is merely further proof of your disconnection from reality.
this is not an issue about "being able to loosen up and have fun"... this is about the insane delusion of people who think they're being effected by a supernatural force to speak in tongues, hoot, holler, roll around on the ground, foam at the mouth, handle snakes, pay gobs of money to a 'faith-healer and countless other harmful or potentially harmful actions while under the influence of delusional dogma. |
You aren't following my drift because you are caught on religion. I see the "holy spirit" as a psychological energy that is refreshing to human beings. I know you are a literal translator of the bible and can't get past the ghost part but to me the bible is a psychological drama that has the clues to being a more whole human being. In the past we left the child behind and had to grow up very past. In recent generations many of us are keeping the child. I would say that in many cases you have kept yours, sometimes too much maybe 
Anyhoo, when people do a ritual it can loosen them up to where the part they need the most is able to come out. You mention insanity, I think many who become insane are those who repress their real selves too much. So subconsciously people are loosening up and to the contrary instead of their behavior being a manifestation of being insane, it can easily be a tool to keep them from going insane.
Look at scream therapy and other therapies where people are encouraged to let their emotions out. Look at how our "joy" emotions are stifled in schools, not even religion, just secular. If we smile at the wrong time, we get in trouble and if we wiggle our butts at the wrong time we are called names either by adults or peers who have fallen for the meme.
Anyway by the time some of these people get to their teens, is it any wonder that they turn to drugs or drink when that is the only place they can feel good again.
Moving to rhythmn feels good. Those people are moving to rhthmn. I can't explain it to you since you are a male where emotions are considered evil anyway when it comes to feeling good. But feeling good is a good reason to live and not being tied to the "act like a grown up" meme feels good when we release it accordingly under our own control.
Releasing it under alcohol does work but that is only temporary if we don't retain it in our consciousness and then work to release it in safer ways I worked in a bar for 3+ years and observed behavior of adults under the influence. It was fascinating to see how eah uniquely needed to release something different and did in different ways. Be it anger, be it sexual, whatever was wanting to come out, came out for the world to see. Unfortunately some drunks can't see it but some can. I saw it in myself every time I got drunk to various degrees which I can pretty well sum up to less than a dozen or maybe even a half dozen times in my lifetime since I was 18.
So drunk with wine or drunk with spirit, all of the actions have a meaning and I rejoice when I see people, adults loosen up.
You brought in many religous hangups into our discussion. If you can't see I was discussing only the "act like an adult" meme thus body movements, then you are either being stubborn or ignorant. This particular video is only on movement and has nothing to do with " foam at the mouth, handle snakes, pay gobs of money to a 'faith-healer and countless other harmful or potentially harmful actions while under the influence of delusional dogma."
True there is hootin and hollerin. Ever been to a barn dance? Ever been to a rock concert? All avenues of letting it all hang out and it FEELS good. If you want to discuss snake handling you will get no argument from me that it is usually a foolish practice.
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ShaSha
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| JBCuzISaidSo wrote: | I often wonder what would happen if these people had the epiphany that there was actually no god at all. Would they be embarrassed by their actions?
That's probably the reason why the evangelicals/fundamentalists such as this lot hang onto religious belief and defend it with such gross tenacity.
Because if they've been wrong this whole time, boy do they look foolish.
Certain types of people you catch in a lie will pad that lie to defend questioning instead of owning up. I find this is right along the same vein as not wanting to be wrong.
Humans are fucking fascinating. |
I don't think so. Look at all of the different religions of the world. They all have various "trance" rituals that enable them to become more of themselves. From the Native American dances to the African, the Sufis, the Asians, the fire walkers etc. everybody has body movement rituals. It took Holy Rollers to put a little movement into Xtianity and I say Amen It all works no matter which god or non god one believes. The purpose is to get to a part of oneself that isn't usually reached in the serious day to day living.
Today many reach that with regular exercises. The high of physical sports is like the high of any body movement. Not every body can do sports so what the hey, let the "spirit" move them, even if it is just the human spirit. |
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| ShaSha wrote: | | I see the "holy spirit" as a psychological energy that is refreshing to human beings. |
That's adorable.
When you get back from your Astral travel, let me know.
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Reminds me of news clips where teenage girls crying, screaming hysterically at their pop idols at shows or at the airport.
Mass hysteria at its best. Amazing.
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| pr126 wrote: | Reminds me of news clips where teenage girls crying, screaming hysterically at their pop idols at shows or at the airport.
Mass hysteria at its best. Amazing. |
And what part bothers you? Your statement says nothing. One moment in their life and it says nothing about who they are. As I mentioned rock concerts are very popular and not just among girls. It is a way to feel alive when you get in there and feel all of that energy. What happens when they go home? What geniuses went and released energy so they could invent the next scientific tool for our use. I am a parent and my screaming teens are now teachers and engineers and movers and shakers in the economy and ecology of our planet. |
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