Eternal afterlife and our human qualities.

cryptid · Visitor Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 12 Local time: 2:31 AM

Would anyone like to discuss the topic of eternal afterlife (heaven, specificaly the judeo christian/ muslim concept of heaven), and how a non- finite amount of time would render things like emotions useless?

To propose an example; We get the emotion of happiness from many things, i.e. the happening of something improbable that is favorable to you, comfort, etc. We gain this emotion because it is in contrast to something we do not want or desire. In heaven, as I am lead to believe, all of the contrasting characteristics to positive emotions are absent, and therefore make an emotion like hapiness meaningless. If I were to feel the constant emotion of hapiness in heaven, It would cease to be the same emotion I felt here, it would become normality.
I can't imagine wanting to go to a place that eliminates all perspective of what makes us human in the first place. When you take that away from us, are we really human? Or are our 'souls' (consciousness, etc.), when not allowed the perspective of the contrast which give us our emotions, just blank slates of joy and hapiness for all eternity. You mind as well just cease to exist.

Sorry if my argument is not thought out or has errors, I just started thinking about it. And again, this aimed at the judeo-christian heaven concept that states emotions like hapiness will be felt in heaven.

GodWarrior98 · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:01 am Post subject:

If we live for an infinite time in heaven, our measly mortal brains will be packed with infinite information. This means two things, our brains will be infinitely large to store all of that, and that any new information will be such a small fraction(essentially zero) of all previous information, it will not affect us.
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ApostateLois · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject:

What brain? The brain is physical, souls are not. Everything that is us--our emotions, desires, attitudes, experiences, memories, behavior patterns, etc.--is stored inside our brains. When you die, there will be nothing left that would still be "you" since the soul does not have a brain. So how does information get stored inside this soul thingy, anyway?

As for living eternally, I just can't fathom it. No matter how much I enjoy something, eventually I lose interest in it. If this is true now, how much more noticeable would it be in heaven (whatever that is, exactly), where I would have all of eternity to get bored with whatever I'm doing? Wouldn't everyone eventually just get tired of living because they would run out of stuff to do?
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josephpalazzo · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject:

You're not going to heaven to be happy, you're going there to praise HIM...

Wickedtruth · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject:

ShaSha · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject:

While boredom might set in on areas that I was interested in, there is always a new interest to replace it.

As for not having emotions, who says we don't? Since heaven is a speculation area why eliminate the emotions? Expand your thoughts beyond the idea of pearly gates and hymns and adoration. Actually adoration takes emotion so if that were true, we do have emotions?

baddogma · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:

There is no afterlife, there is no soul. The rest is up to the imagination.
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Unbeliever · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject:

When we've been there 10 googol years,
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing God's praise than when we first begun.

What a depressing notion!
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