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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject:
EA215 wrote:
There's alot a things that can prove evolution to be wrong.
You don't seem to understand the difference between something being wrong and something that can be falsified. So before you open your mouth and make a fool of yourself, get your concepts straighten out...
There's alot a things that can prove evolution to be wrong.
Then why did you post the video? His entire rant was about evolution being unfalsifyable. Regardless, Venom's video(s) was bullshit to begin with. _________________ Composite things are like dreams. Fantasies. Bubbles. Thoughts. Like a dewdrop and a flash of lightning. A new dress and a burning tire. Waves of sand and sinking ships. The shadow of a statue, and an entry in a diary. A brain tumor and an ice cream sundae. We are thus to be recorded.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject:
Evolution is a very fragile theory. All it would take to falsify it is to find rabbit bones in the pre-Cambrian rock layer or a flint spear head jutting from the jaw of a T-Rex. Human graves along side dinosaur bones or endogenous retrovirus insertions more similar in Jellyfish and gorillas than humans and chimpanzees. We have never found such evidence. My bet is they never will.
If mutations such as fish growing hair or birds growing tits showed up, game over. Yet you would EXPECT dolphins to grow an occasional hind limb or maybe a chicken with teeth if evolution were true. We DO find these.
Creationists have blind faith. Evolutionists have endless facts.
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 4072 Local time: 4:36 AM Location: Groningen, the Netherlands
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject:
EA215 wrote:
There's alot a things that can prove evolution to be wrong.
That would mean evolution is a falsifiable theory, wouldn't it?
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
But as man exists in nature, I am not authorized to say that his formation, is above the power of nature.
Paul Henri Thiry Baron d' Holbach, (1723-1789)
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Gerard, (1962-*)
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 2143 Local time: 11:36 PM Location: South Florida
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject:
EA215 wrote:
There's alot a things that can prove evolution to be wrong.
Like....bananas that are miraculously shaped to fit the hand? Or how paintings and watches you find on the beach are to intricate to be anything but created? Oh OHHH....how's about, there's no water in the universe off planet earth? ORRRRRRRR how the Grand Canyon was formed in like, 5 seconds?
That's all some exciting stuff right there. And also, it's all bullshit. Much of which spouted but your "guy who just smacked down them atheists by proving evolution wrong praise Allah/Zeus/Loki/some vagabond's left testicle!", VenomFangX.
This guy really thinks a video post (by that amazingly deluded super-creep VFX no less) is enough?
You underestimate your enemy, cock-a-roach. I mean....grasshoppah....... _________________
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 4072 Local time: 4:36 AM Location: Groningen, the Netherlands
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject:
baddogma wrote:
Evolution is a very fragile theory. All it would take to falsify it is to find rabbit bones in the pre-Cambrian rock layer or a flint spear head jutting from the jaw of a T-Rex. Human graves along side dinosaur bones or endogenous retrovirus insertions more similar in Jellyfish and gorillas than humans and chimpanzees. We have never found such evidence. My bet is they never will.
If mutations such as fish growing hair or birds growing tits showed up, game over. Yet you would EXPECT dolphins to grow an occasional hind limb or maybe a chicken with teeth if evolution were true. We DO find these.
Creationists have blind faith. Evolutionists have endless facts.
You lose asshats!
Actually in a way that's also what makes evolution such a strong and well established theory. All the things you mention consistently fail to show up!
EA215 wrote:
There's alot a things that can prove evolution to be wrong.
The answer to that is therefore: But there isn't any. Nothing zilch nada..... You've got exactly nothing to show for.
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
But as man exists in nature, I am not authorized to say that his formation, is above the power of nature.
Paul Henri Thiry Baron d' Holbach, (1723-1789)
Not collecting stamps is my hobby.
Gerard, (1962-*)
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 4072 Local time: 4:36 AM Location: Groningen, the Netherlands
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject:
VFX wrote:
Something cannot be proven to be true without showing that it is not false, and something cannot be proven to be not true, unless it can be proven to be false.
VFX has clearly adapted Poppers falsification idea to suit his own purposses. This is a version he just made up. Clearly he added the second part to apply to God.
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
But as man exists in nature, I am not authorized to say that his formation, is above the power of nature.
Paul Henri Thiry Baron d' Holbach, (1723-1789)
Not collecting stamps is my hobby.
Gerard, (1962-*)
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Posts: 2143 Local time: 11:36 PM Location: South Florida
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject:
Gerard wrote:
VFX wrote:
Something cannot be proven to be true without showing that it is not false, and something cannot be proven to be not true, unless it can be proven to be false.
VFX has clearly adapted Poppers falsification idea to suit his own purposses. This is a version he just made up. Clearly he added the second part to apply to God.
Gerard
Right. And the "prove that there isn't an invisible dragon in my garage" argument fits also onto what he added, so it certainly isn't just "for god". That will make VFX hopping mad when he realizes his gem of wisdom has just been shown to be a plastic knock-off. Yet again! I smell 7 more YouTubes to defend his piss-poor position......... _________________
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 4072 Local time: 4:36 AM Location: Groningen, the Netherlands
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject:
JBCuzISaidSo wrote:
Gerard wrote:
VFX wrote:
Something cannot be proven to be true without showing that it is not false, and something cannot be proven to be not true, unless it can be proven to be false.
VFX has clearly adapted Poppers falsification idea to suit his own purposses. This is a version he just made up. Clearly he added the second part to apply to God.
Gerard
Right. And the "prove that there isn't an invisible dragon in my garage" argument fits also onto what he added, so it certainly isn't just "for god". That will make VFX hopping mad when he realizes his gem of wisdom has just been shown to be a plastic knock-off. Yet again! I smell 7 more YouTubes to defend his piss-poor position.........
Well, he learned from the master himself. Kent Hovind. That won't do much to enhance the soundness of the arguments I fear.....
BTW, I moved this thread from Christianity to Biology and Medicine.
Gerard _________________ The Historical Atlas of Europe
But as man exists in nature, I am not authorized to say that his formation, is above the power of nature.
Paul Henri Thiry Baron d' Holbach, (1723-1789)
Not collecting stamps is my hobby.
Gerard, (1962-*)
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