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SpunkyChicken Visitor

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Question for atheists |
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| Would you recommend reading the bible? I want to know if it's worth it, and whether it somehow makes sense or becomes more interesting somewhere in the middle. How can someone who doesn't believe in god interpret it so it becomes a good and moral guide? |
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josephpalazzo Illusion Master

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| I would not waste my time reading the bible, no more than I would read the qur'an... |
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Moloth Fateless

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: Question for atheists |
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| SpunkyChicken wrote: | | Would you recommend reading the bible? I want to know if it's worth it, and whether it somehow makes sense or becomes more interesting somewhere in the middle. How can someone who doesn't believe in god interpret it so it becomes a good and moral guide? |
i would recommending reading it.
true or not, it has a marked effect on the world in which we live. to read the hate and insanity in that book is to be better prepared against it. _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Question for atheists |
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| SpunkyChicken wrote: | | How can someone who doesn't believe in god interpret it so it becomes a good and moral guide? |
you cant, it doesnt make sense without a belief in god
i wouldnt recommend reading it, its boring and ridiculous _________________
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Unbeliever Forum Master


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The Bible: it's not for everybody, though it sure tries to be!
Well, it depends on motivation, I guess. I read the Bible the first time because my pastor and others told me to, since I'd find the answers to my questions there. I didn't actually, but after I'd read it cover to cover, I no longer held any faith in it. Since then I've read it through twice more, and studied it a good bit, as well. My motivation was to use it as ammunition to argue against Bible literalists and other Christians who take it very seriously. It can be read as literature, I suppose, but much of it's not very good in that respect.
It does get good, IMO, when it comes to the book of Ecclesiastes. I don't know how much it did to influence my worldview, but I do believe that all is vanity, ultimately futile and meaningless. So we shouldn't stress so much over our triumphs and failures, but instead just enjoy them while we can. _________________ Only those with weak faith feel threatened by those with no faith.
2000 years of Christianity - haven't we wasted enough time!?
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joshuas3521 Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I would definitely recommend it. Biblical references are everywhere in our culture to the point that you miss entire aspects of literature by missing it. _________________ "What I'm saying is, if God wanted to send us a message, and ancient writings were the only way he could think of doing it, he could have done a better job." --Carl Sagan
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spartan123209 Forum Plebian


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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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"The Bible is the best proof against Christianity out there."
Someone here posted that quote.
I believe to really understand why someone believes in god(s), you need to understand what their religion is about. |
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FlatEarth1024 Forum Master


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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Question for atheists |
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| Moloth wrote: | | SpunkyChicken wrote: | | Would you recommend reading the bible? I want to know if it's worth it, and whether it somehow makes sense or becomes more interesting somewhere in the middle. How can someone who doesn't believe in god interpret it so it becomes a good and moral guide? |
i would recommending reading it.
true or not, it has a marked effect on the world in which we live. to read the hate and insanity in that book is to be better prepared against it. |
Hear, hear. In order to effectively engage one's foe, one must learn his tactics and understand his mindset. To use a sports analogy, the bible is pretty much the other team's playbook. Learn your opponent's gameplan and you are always one step ahead of him. _________________
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Lilith Forum Jedi

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I've read it as a kid in my after school bible study, and have yet to read it again as an atheist,
though I've spoken for hours with others on many on the contradictions. I think it is reading it as a whole would be worth it. Think of it as a mythology read so that it's not so frustrating to know people believe that crap. _________________ With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. - Steven Weinberg |
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Wander Forum Leader


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To read it and try to harvest morals from it would be a grand waste of time. Instead, skim over it to get a feel for what you're arguing against - actually reading and knowing what's in the Bible is the most effective way to argue against it. _________________ Regarding creationists: Aren't these the same people who gave us alchemy and astrology, and who told us the earth, besides being flat, was at the center of the universe? Why don't we just kill these fucking people? ~George Carlin |
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transientangent Forum Leader


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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Question for atheists |
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| SpunkyChicken wrote: | | Would you recommend reading the bible? I want to know if it's worth it, and whether it somehow makes sense or becomes more interesting somewhere in the middle. How can someone who doesn't believe in god interpret it so it becomes a good and moral guide? |
Read it with a good guide. The Oxford Annotated Bible is the version we used in college and it provides an abundance of interesting background material that clarifies the cultural context of the material. The OAB gives introductions before the books and then provides extensive annotations. It's definitely worth the investment if you're going to have a bible around.
http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Apocrypha-Augmented-Revised-Standard/dp/0195288807/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217121836&sr=8-1 |
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"'The Good Book'--one of the most remarkable euphemisms ever coined."
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Question for atheists |
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| SpunkyChicken wrote: | | Would you recommend reading the bible? I want to know if it's worth it, and whether it somehow makes sense or becomes more interesting somewhere in the middle. How can someone who doesn't believe in god interpret it so it becomes a good and moral guide? |
I would recommend reading it, with a companion guide, just so you know where Christians are coming from. But it is a very hard read. I never finished the Old Testament.
As to a moral guide, it is an aweful moral guide. Jesus advocated giving away all your stuff to the poor and was not against slavery. _________________ "Most voters know nothing about how markets work—or even that they work..." Sheldon Richman |
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chookrooter Forum Master

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I read the Bible because I had no choice,being a catholic child at the time.
Not something I would recommend for pleasure or to gain knowledge or understanding.
You may get the impression that may believers are even worse than you thought before reading their book. Have glance at Leviticus;that also gives the lie to the literalists.
Having said that ,I must admit I rather like "the Song Of Solomon"; it's quite erotic.
I read The Quran whilst I was at University as background for a paper I was doing. All I'll say is that it's a lot shorter than the bible,and that I was very grateful at the time.. |
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CET The Spiritual Atheist

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Question for atheists |
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| Moloth wrote: | | SpunkyChicken wrote: | | Would you recommend reading the bible? I want to know if it's worth it, and whether it somehow makes sense or becomes more interesting somewhere in the middle. How can someone who doesn't believe in god interpret it so it becomes a good and moral guide? |
i would recommending reading it.
true or not, it has a marked effect on the world in which we live. to read the hate and insanity in that book is to be better prepared against it. |
Inoculation theory. _________________ Namaste,
CET
The Spiritual Atheist
"Much of the suffering in the world comes from the delusion that we are separate from one another." - Gautama Buddha
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin |
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