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Sal1981 Do you hear me now?

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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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*** SPOILER ***
If you like graphical movies, especially body mutilation, then this is a movie for you.
_________________ "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman
"Why not just make your null hypothesis be that..." - Philosophos |
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CET The Spiritual Atheist

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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, wassup with the child eater monster? Was that something out of a fable? That thing was friggin CREEPY! _________________ Namaste,
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NeuralLick Traveler to Babylon

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:13 am Post subject: |
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I just saw it tonight, incidentally. I thought it was good, but not terribly great. My favorite character was Mercedes (I think that was her name). If you've seen the movie, I think you will know why. _________________ "Synapses are protoplasmic kisses, the final ecstasy of an epic love story." - Santiago Ramon y Cajal
"Philosophy is at once the most sublime and trivial of human pursuits." - William James
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benyjets23 Royal Citizen


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:35 am Post subject: |
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SPOILER WARNING / SPOILER WARNING
I saw it, and I thought It was fantastic. 2006, and so far 2007 is proving to be great years for movies. I put Pans Labyrinth in the same category as "The Departed", "Blood Diamond" and "Last King Of Scotland".
I was always try to go to movies "blind", without having read any reviews. So I was expecting PL to be a girls fantasy like Narnia (Cheery, Fun and Epic). Instead the fantasies were smallish and dark. (I found the Faun the scariest looking of them all). This fit with the over all movie, not only is the girls real life dark and tragic, but it is as if her fantasies are strained through the lens's in which she lives reality.
QUESTION: In the movie, do you believe it is implied and meant to be believed that the girl was creating fantasies to saver her soul & heart from the situation she found her self in? (In which case she had a death bed hallucination at the end, hence the movie is 100% dark) or do you believe the images were real in which case there is a ray of hope in the surrounding darkness?
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Sal1981 Do you hear me now?

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| benyjets23 wrote: | | QUESTION: In the movie, do you believe it is implied and meant to be believed that the girl was creating fantasies to saver her soul & heart from the situation she found her self in? (In which case she had a death bed hallucination at the end, hence the movie is 100% dark) or do you believe the images were real in which case there is a ray of hope in the surrounding darkness? |
I would go with that the girl fantasizes it all, based on _________________ "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman
"Why not just make your null hypothesis be that..." - Philosophos |
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CET The Spiritual Atheist

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| benyjets23 wrote: | | I saw it, and I thought It was fantastic. 2006, and so far 2007 is proving to be great years for movies. I put Pans Labyrinth in the same category as "The Departed", "Blood Diamond" and "Last King Of Scotland". |
I haven't seen those, but I saw Children of Men. Good flick, but get ready for a movie that's freakin BLEAK! _________________ Namaste,
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benyjets23 Royal Citizen


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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CET,
I saw Children Of Men. It was great. It was also very bleak. Definitely alot better than another "future of horrors" flick called Vendetta. The battle scenes at the end were amazingly well done and intense.
I am usually partial to movies with the charismatic hero (Indianna Jones, Star Wars, Lord Of The Rings Etc.) and fantastical meta-adventures. But once in a while I like getting emotionaly blind sided by a movie that is dark, without the compensating inspirational good guy.
Ben
P.S.: I have a feeling that if I was thrust into some kind of action flick scenario, I would be the guy in "Children Of Men" as opposed to a Han Solo type. |
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CET The Spiritual Atheist

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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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I liked that there was nothing special about the hero. He was Joe Everyday.
On a side note, I liked V for Vendetta. It wasn't at all realistic, which is what made it so theatrical. Also keep in mind that it was based on a comic book. _________________ Namaste,
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benyjets23 Royal Citizen


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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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CET,
I agree with you 100% about the hero, I also liked the fact that he was not special or unrealisticaly charismatic. When you think about it, if they made the same movie, with the exception that the hero was an Indianna Jones type, or like the Matthew Maconahey (I have no idea how to spell it) character from Sahara it would totaly destroy the movie. Children of Men is as much about a psychological state and mood than a plot line and concept. They were not just making a concept, they tryed to bring the audience into the mind set of the utter futility of living a life when every thing that you and your species have worked for will be gone in a few decades time. If the hero was some guy who seemed to breeze above the conflict with some kind of god like charisma the mind set is ruined. The movie needed a wounded hero and a normal hero.
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