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| J. R. R. Tolkien |
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baddogma antitheist

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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Better story teller: J.R.R. Tolkien or C.S. Lewis? |
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gnosis Forum Master


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I would say C.S. Lewis was the better story teller, but J.R.R. wrote the better story.
I never found myself skipping parts of C.S. Lewis books to get to the good battles.  _________________ "Agnostics: Atheists without balls." -Stephen Colbert |
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baddogma antitheist

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| gnosis wrote: | I would say C.S. Lewis was the better story teller, but J.R.R. wrote the better story.
I never found myself skipping parts of C.S. Lewis books to get to the good battles.  |
aye, Tolkien could take you on a tangent that was a real snooze fest....or a song. I'm so glad they dropped the songs from the movies and didn't make it a musical.
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joshuas3521 Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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J.R.R. Tolkien. He could not only write a story but create a well colored alternate universe with family lines, languages, and lore. While sometimes tedious, you could spend years studying his work. _________________ "What I'm saying is, if God wanted to send us a message, and ancient writings were the only way he could think of doing it, he could have done a better job." --Carl Sagan
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baddogma antitheist

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| joshuas3521 wrote: | | J.R.R. Tolkien. He could not only write a story but create a well colored alternate universe with family lines, languages, and lore. While sometimes tedious, you could spend years studying his work. |
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Dawkadoodle Forum Master

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| While both are skillful and talented, I don't think one is better than the other. Their works are composed and imagined well but the fantasy and whimsical quest genres aren't my favorites. |
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BarkAtTheMoon O Captain, my Captain

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I haven't read Tolkien, but I read the Narnia series (most of it at least) as a kid and quit around maybe the fifth book because I did get bored with it. The whole pushing Christianity thing didn't exactly occur to me, but I do remember thinking the Aslan resurrection bit as being a wholly unoriginal knockoff of the Jesus story and wondering why he couldn't come up with an original storyline idea. _________________ "The very existence of flame throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.' - George Carlin
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tinker683 Entirely Too Serious

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Tolkien
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Because Sauron could beat the living shit out of Aslan, the 4 brats, and an Ice Queen without breaking stride (assuming he had legs, of course)
/cough
On a slighty more serious note, I prefer Tolkien just because while I found his style of storytelling difficult to get into, once I did I found it deeply enchanting. I have little doubt that man could take going to the bathroom and taking a dump into a epic story of good vs evil. _________________ "Not everything that steps out of line, and thus 'abnormal', must necessarily be 'inferior'" - Hans Asperger, 1938
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joshuas3521 Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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| tinker683 wrote: | | Because Sauron could beat the living shit out of Aslan, the 4 brats, and an Ice Queen without breaking stride (assuming he had legs, of course) |
He wouldn't even have to be there. He wouldn't even have to know they exist, Aslan would just find the one ring and... _________________ "What I'm saying is, if God wanted to send us a message, and ancient writings were the only way he could think of doing it, he could have done a better job." --Carl Sagan
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gnosis Forum Master


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| baddogma wrote: |
Lewis seems to be writing to a much younger group in the narnia books I just started. |
Thats why I like Lewis , I was able to read his books at a younger age. That got me into the genre and later to Tolkien, who I do think wrote the best story overall. _________________ "Agnostics: Atheists without balls." -Stephen Colbert |
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baddogma antitheist

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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I just watched the first Narnia movie....it was ok, but predictable and overall weak....Lewis blows compared to Tolkien. What a copy cat. He may as well have named the lion Jebus. Also I know Narnia came before STAR WARS, but the ceremony at the end reeked of the one at the end of a new hope. I was waiting for R2D2 to let out a squeak and C3PO to be all polished and new.
I'll watch the other Narnias, but so far they are in different leagues.
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cheapsuprise Liberated

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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| baddogma wrote: |
Ever read the Silmarillion? |
Yes.
| Quote: | | Talk about reading a different version of Genesis. |
That's better than reading the new testament repackaged, IMO.
Same problem with Madeleine L'Engle. A Wrinkle in Time is a classic, no doubt, but I don't appreciate limp wristed allegory.
J.R. had more imagination than both C.S. and Madaleine combined. |
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cheapsuprise Liberated

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| tinker683 wrote: | Tolkien
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Because Sauron could beat the living shit out of Aslan, the 4 brats, and an Ice Queen without breaking stride (assuming he had legs, of course)
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Without a doubt. Also, Melkor/Morgoth could ass fuck Emperor Palpatine.
It's no challenge to create physically or physiologically powerful characters, but...
| Quote: | | On a slighty more serious note, I prefer Tolkien just because while I found his style of storytelling difficult to get into, once I did I found it deeply enchanting. I have little doubt that man could take going to the bathroom and taking a dump into a epic story of good vs evil. |
That is what counts. Consider Watership Down. It's a bunch of fucken rabbits. Very compelling though, because we CARE about the characters. That's what counts. The SCALE of the conflict doesn't mater, when you have good characters. |
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ShadowWulf can see you while you sleep

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Im going to have to say Tolkien, however i do agree that he can become somewhat over-detailed and it can slow the pace down alot.
I am curious as to the reason behind the poll though? Why just these 2 authors and not the other major great fantasy writers? There are others i prefer over either Lewis or Tolkien. |
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baddogma antitheist

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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| ShadowWulf wrote: | Im going to have to say Tolkien, however i do agree that he can become somewhat over-detailed and it can slow the pace down alot.
I am curious as to the reason behind the poll though? Why just these 2 authors and not the other major great fantasy writers? There are others i prefer over either Lewis or Tolkien. |
I have heard that they knew each other and Lewis was ...I don't want to say competing, but they were sort of in eachother's light so to speak.
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