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Better story teller: J.R.R. Tolkien or C.S. Lewis?
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Who is the better story teller.
J. R. R. Tolkien
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C. S. Lewis
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Better story teller: J.R.R. Tolkien or C.S. Lewis? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Why?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I would say C.S. Lewis was the better story teller, but J.R.R. wrote the better story.

I never found myself skipping parts of C.S. Lewis books to get to the good battles. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I would say C.S. Lewis was the better story teller, but J.R.R. wrote the better story.

I never found myself skipping parts of C.S. Lewis books to get to the good battles. Wink



aye, Tolkien could take you on a tangent that was a real snooze fest....or a song. I'm so glad they dropped the songs from the movies and didn't make it a musical.
Lewis seems to be writing to a much younger group in the narnia books I just started.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

J.R.R. Tolkien. He could not only write a story but create a well colored alternate universe with family lines, languages, and lore. While sometimes tedious, you could spend years studying his work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

joshuas3521 wrote:
J.R.R. Tolkien. He could not only write a story but create a well colored alternate universe with family lines, languages, and lore. While sometimes tedious, you could spend years studying his work.


Ever read the Silmarillion? Talk about reading a different version of Genesis.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

While both are skillful and talented, I don't think one is better than the other. Their works are composed and imagined well but the fantasy and whimsical quest genres aren't my favorites.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I haven't read Tolkien, but I read the Narnia series (most of it at least) as a kid and quit around maybe the fifth book because I did get bored with it. The whole pushing Christianity thing didn't exactly occur to me, but I do remember thinking the Aslan resurrection bit as being a wholly unoriginal knockoff of the Jesus story and wondering why he couldn't come up with an original storyline idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tolkien

Why?

Because Sauron could beat the living shit out of Aslan, the 4 brats, and an Ice Queen without breaking stride (assuming he had legs, of course)

/cough

On a slighty more serious note, I prefer Tolkien just because while I found his style of storytelling difficult to get into, once I did I found it deeply enchanting. I have little doubt that man could take going to the bathroom and taking a dump into a epic story of good vs evil.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

tinker683 wrote:
Because Sauron could beat the living shit out of Aslan, the 4 brats, and an Ice Queen without breaking stride (assuming he had legs, of course)


He wouldn't even have to be there. He wouldn't even have to know they exist, Aslan would just find the one ring and...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

baddogma wrote:

Lewis seems to be writing to a much younger group in the narnia books I just started.


Thats why I like Lewis , I was able to read his books at a younger age. That got me into the genre and later to Tolkien, who I do think wrote the best story overall.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I just watched the first Narnia movie....it was ok, but predictable and overall weak....Lewis blows compared to Tolkien. What a copy cat. He may as well have named the lion Jebus. Also I know Narnia came before STAR WARS, but the ceremony at the end reeked of the one at the end of a new hope. I was waiting for R2D2 to let out a squeak and C3PO to be all polished and new.
I'll watch the other Narnias, but so far they are in different leagues.
I'm glad when I was a child my mom read LOTR to me and not Narnia. I would have fallen asleep.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

baddogma wrote:


Ever read the Silmarillion?


Yes.

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Talk about reading a different version of Genesis.


That's better than reading the new testament repackaged, IMO.

Same problem with Madeleine L'Engle. A Wrinkle in Time is a classic, no doubt, but I don't appreciate limp wristed allegory.
J.R. had more imagination than both C.S. and Madaleine combined.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

tinker683 wrote:
Tolkien

Why?

Because Sauron could beat the living shit out of Aslan, the 4 brats, and an Ice Queen without breaking stride (assuming he had legs, of course)

/cough


Without a doubt. Also, Melkor/Morgoth could ass fuck Emperor Palpatine.
It's no challenge to create physically or physiologically powerful characters, but...

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On a slighty more serious note, I prefer Tolkien just because while I found his style of storytelling difficult to get into, once I did I found it deeply enchanting. I have little doubt that man could take going to the bathroom and taking a dump into a epic story of good vs evil.


That is what counts. Consider Watership Down. It's a bunch of fucken rabbits. Very compelling though, because we CARE about the characters. That's what counts. The SCALE of the conflict doesn't mater, when you have good characters.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Im going to have to say Tolkien, however i do agree that he can become somewhat over-detailed and it can slow the pace down alot.

I am curious as to the reason behind the poll though? Why just these 2 authors and not the other major great fantasy writers? There are others i prefer over either Lewis or Tolkien.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ShadowWulf wrote:
Im going to have to say Tolkien, however i do agree that he can become somewhat over-detailed and it can slow the pace down alot.

I am curious as to the reason behind the poll though? Why just these 2 authors and not the other major great fantasy writers? There are others i prefer over either Lewis or Tolkien.


I have heard that they knew each other and Lewis was ...I don't want to say competing, but they were sort of in eachother's light so to speak.

I'm looking forward to the rest of Lewis's story. I know LOTR inside out.
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