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Chaoslord2004
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | I'm sure you'd like people to believe that. |
Why would I care what an intellectually dishonest hack like you thinks of me?
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Knight_of_BAAWA
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Lovely projection there.
Are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that there's some area which you aren't an expert?
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Chaoslord2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: |
Are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that there's some area which you aren't an expert? |
Strawman, since this isn't what I EVER claimed, nor implied. And a red herring since it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Stop lying about me. Are you so insecure you have to make up false accusations about other people to make yourself feel tall? Unless you can show where I implied such, or even act like I was an expert, I expect you to cease your baseless attack on me.
Give evidence I claimed this, or shut the fuck up.
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Persuasion
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | Knight of BAAWA wrote: | | I'm simply stating that I actually know something about economics, as opposed to someone like CL, kmisho--and you. |
| Persuasion wrote: | | The keyword above is "stating." You have yet to show us your diplomas. |
Interesting. So no one can talk about evolution unless s/he has a degree in biology?
Yeah, that's what you're saying.
Try again, moron. |
I am supposed to take your word for it that you know more economics than me. You could claim anything and I would have no way of verifying it. Further, if everyone who disagrees with you is an economics ignoramus, then they can't possibly appraise your claim that you know economics unless you show some sort of diploma. On what basis do you claim superior knowledge of economics? Please don't tell me you met some hunk of an economist/philosopher and that's why you are so 'brilliant'. Perhaps, the economist you met rubbed some of their cum on your head, and walla you became the Brain.
As it relates to your analogy. Anyone could talk on any issue they please. However, their credibility and persuasiveness is directly related to their experience and/or education in the field they are discussing. In your case you are not simply talking, you are also insisting that you are superior and, therein, lies the difference. Guess what if you don't show us a diploma your claims are baseless. Nay, they are worth the same as any other individuals claims about their knowledge of economics.
You don't have to admit that you are wrong now. I am well aware that change is gradual. In your private moments you would reflect on all the debates you have had. Trust me, something would have to give. Love you. I am out!
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Persuasion
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Chaoslord2004 wrote: | | Persuasion wrote: | | I am stating that I know as much as you. My statement has as much weight as your until such time as we compare our credentials. |
See, but you disagree with knight's economic theory, so almost by definition you know nothing about economics. Just like developmentalist economists knew nothing about economics... |
Yes.
One minute Knight charges you with ignorance and in the same breath he claims that you are dishonest. The claim of dishonesty presupposes that one knows the truth (as in economics) but is not willing to publicly state them. This does compliment the charge of ignorance. Knight cannot have it both ways.
When Knight was insulting me, I truly thought I was special. Then, I realized that he probably cut and paste his insults, because he uses the same set for all comers. When you have to cut and past insults that suggest that you lack confidence in your ability to persuade others. Insults should flow naturally and spontaneously.
Ah, who cares!
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Knight_of_BAAWA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Persuasion wrote: |
Yes.
One minute Knight charges you with ignorance and in the same breath he claims that you are dishonest. |
And there's no problem there.
But, you go on and pout, little girl. It will be alright. Just remember: you're not special. No one likes you.
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Knight_of_BAAWA
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Persuasion wrote: | | I am supposed to take your word for it that you know more economics than me. |
I'm supposed to take your word for it that you know thing-one about economics?
Get crucial.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | Are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that there's some area which you aren't an expert? |
| Chaoslord2004 wrote: | | Strawman |
Bullshit. That is EXACTLY how you're acting, CL. You're so terrified that you don't know something that you are willing to make a total ass of yourself demonstrating how little you know.
I'm just giving you the rope with which you're slowing hanging yourself.
I wouldn't be so hard on you if you'd just stop acting like you actually have a clue here. You don't. The best thing for you to do is ask questions. But what you do instead is to make grandiose claims about something you are woefully unprepared to even discuss. Did I not explain corporatism to you when you asked? So what makes you think I wouldn't give other explanations when asked? All you need to do is stop being so afraid to say "I don't know anything about this, could you explain it to me".
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: |
All you need to do is stop being so afraid to say "I don't know anything about this, could you explain it to me". |
Because he would be lying. We all know something about economics, we all live in an economic system. I will freely admit I know very little about economics, but I won't admit I know nothing, because I would be lying.
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Chaoslord2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | Are you so insecure that you can't handle the fact that there's some area which you aren't an expert? |
| Chaoslord2004 wrote: | | Strawman |
Bullshit. That is EXACTLY how you're acting, CL. You're so terrified that you don't know something that you are willing to make a total ass of yourself demonstrating how little you know.
I'm just giving you the rope with which you're slowing hanging yourself.
I wouldn't be so hard on you if you'd just stop acting like you actually have a clue here. You don't. The best thing for you to do is ask questions. But what you do instead is to make grandiose claims about something you are woefully unprepared to even discuss. Did I not explain corporatism to you when you asked? So what makes you think I wouldn't give other explanations when asked? All you need to do is stop being so afraid to say "I don't know anything about this, could you explain it to me". |
Stop grandstanding.
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | All you need to do is stop being so afraid to say "I don't know anything about this, could you explain it to me". |
| gnosis wrote: | | Because he would be lying. |
No, he wouldn't.
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| Chaoslord2004 wrote: | | Stop grandstanding. |
Stop being such a fucking coward and just admit that you don't know as much as you think you do about economics. It doesn't mean you're less of a person.
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gnosis
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: |
Stop being such a fucking coward and just admit that you don't know as much as you think you do about economics. It doesn't mean you're less of a person. |
Now you change your tune. First it's "admit you know NOTHING", now it's "admit you don't now as much as you think you do".
I will freely admit the latter but I will never admit to the former because I would be lying, and so are you in saying that I wouldn't be.
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Chaoslord2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | Stop being such a fucking coward and just admit that you don't know as much as you think you do about economics. |
I already did, stop being a douchebag.
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Knight_of_BAAWA
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| Knight_of_BAAWA wrote: | | Stop being such a fucking coward and just admit that you don't know as much as you think you do about economics. It doesn't mean you're less of a person. |
| gnosis wrote: | | Now you change your tune. |
No, I didn't.
And you're rather transparent in your quest for validation here.
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