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hillbillyatheist
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the bible says whosoever in reference to saying thou fool.
you're the one that doesn't read things in context.
did you ever bother to educate yourself on things such as evolution and atheism and other things in the videos we offered you?
i can assure you that you are wasting your time if you are here to convert us and yet will not try to bone up on why exactly we see things the way we do.
quoting scripture at us to imply that we are evil monstrous retards, ain't gonna get'cha nowhere.
we can just quote right back at'cha!
Proverbs 15:1 A soft answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.
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Anubis
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| RUGoingUP wrote: | | Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. |
Gee thanks.
It's nice to know that you think people like me, William Shatner, Carl Sagan, Katharine Hepburn, Douglas Adams, Rodney Dangerfield, Isaac Asimov, Howard Stern, Eddie Izzard, Penn Jillette, and Billy Joel are evil.
PS, we don't believe (And/or lack belief) in the bible becuase we haven't yet recieved evidence that was satisfactory.
Of course with your response (EXACTLY!!!) to this:
| Quote: | | Holding a belief despite that evidence stands to the contrary, that's willful ignorance. |
Pretty much says that you think Muslims, Hindus, any person following religion that isn't christian (Past present or future), are ignorant fools. |
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| Anubis wrote: | | RUGoingUP wrote: | | Quote: | | Holding a belief despite that evidence stands to the contrary, that's willful ignorance. |
Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. |
Gee thanks.
It's nice to know that you think people like me, William Shatner, Carl Sagan, Katharine Hepburn, Douglas Adams, Rodney Dangerfield, Isaac Asimov, Howard Stern, Eddie Izzard, Penn Jillette, and Billy Joel are evil. |
Uh.. wait a minute Billy Joel is actually evil. ** plays "We didn't start the fire" ** to illustrate said point.
The inerrant word of god (psalms) sounds frighteningly similar to Ahkenaten, the Egyptian book of the dead and other ancient pagan texts.
Would the pedophile priests who wrote, edited and changed the bible according to their own whims engage in a little (okay, a whole lot of) plagiarism ?
So if I can understand this psalm of David correctly (and for those of you who might be beginners....(David was an ancient King (godly man)who killed another man so he could bone his wife...I'm aglow w/ admiration).
The fool hath said in his heart, there is no god (Meaning: the God that the bible writers are selling to the uncritical masses) ......for surely Allah or Vishnu or Zeus does not count ..  The silly monotheism here needed some clarification.
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Ophis
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| RUGoingUP wrote: | Sorry Hillbilly.
out of context...AGAIN!!!
First, it's God who's calling them fools, not me.
Second, I'm not angry.
Third, a 'brother' is a fellow believer, which he is not.
The Bible really DOES make sense, if you know how to read it.
Larry |
Actually I'm pretty sure that you're taking it out of context. Psalm 14 is a lament on an evil generation. 14:1 refers to those who do not fear God, who act in an evil way as if God would not punish them, not to atheists. Compare it to Psalm 10. The only reason I don't usually object to atheists complaining about the out-of-context sense of this verse is that they only do so in response to Christians' use of it out of context. Think about it; do you honestly think there were enough atheists in ancient Israel for the Psalmist to complain about?
Matthew 5:22 obviously is not exclusive to believers. There weren't even any Christians when Jesus was alive, the church only split off from Judaism after his death. Remember what the Bible says about loving your enemies? Do you then think Jesus in Matthew 5 is telling people to do good only to their "brothers in Christ" and not their enemies? Well done, you've created a Bible contradiction where none existed before.
And yes, the Bible does make sense if you know how to read it. I read it as a myth, and it makes sense as myth. The fact that it is a myth allows me to explain the contradictions, and to understand why God apparently wanted the Hebrews to wipe out other nations and use voodoo tricks instead of real medicine.
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The inerrant word of god (psalms) sounds frighteningly similar to Ahkenaten, the Egyptian book of the dead and other ancient pagan texts. |
Can you go into a little more detail, I'm interested.
| AmericanIdle wrote: | | Would the pedophile priests who wrote, edited and changed the bible according to their own whims engage in a little (okay, a whole lot of) plagiarism ? |
*Points at sundisks*
*Points at halos*
Christianity is pretty much a copy/paste religion.
| AmericanIdle wrote: | | Uh.. wait a minute Billy Joel is actually evil. ** plays "We didn't start the fire" ** to illustrate said point. |
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| Quote: | Can you go into a little more detail, I'm interested.
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There are dozens of books written on the souce of the book of Psalms, but many of the verses are amazingly similar to the Egyptian Book of the Dead. (Ancient Egypt's version of sacred scriptures), including a recent one by an Egyptian scholar and I can't find the book right now. Damn you google !! (Also borrowed from ancient Canaanite texts)
I'll have to look it up.. There have to be some on this site who know this better than I ..I would imagine.
Here's one example for Psalm 104:
http://www.seanet.com/~realistic/psalm104.html[/quote]
Also compare the Hymn to Osiris (also referred to as "Lord of Lords", "King of Kings" and the "Good Shepherd" ...with Psalm 23
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| RUGoingUP wrote: | | Quote: | | Holding a belief despite that evidence stands to the contrary, that's willful ignorance. |
Exactly!!!!!
Psa 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Yup................dumb on purpose.
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Well said Larry! Way to go, man! |
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| WWFStern wrote: | | Polaris wrote: | | Quote: | | Call it an appeal to ad hominem, but I cannot take anybody seriously who legitimately contends that the Earth is only 6000 years old. After making such an absurd assertion, I never could take any of that person's arguments seriously. |
That is because you don't have faith. |
Faith = Belief in that for which no solid evidence exists. |
I wanted to share, some Christians think the word 'faith' has a completely different meaning. Counselor John at James Oldham Treatment Center, in Buena, WA, claims the meaning of faith is: the evidence for things which can't be scene. I asked him, "Is this what it says in the dictionary?"
His only answer was, "I don't know, but faith is proof of god."
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: The Unanswerable Question For Christians? |
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| WWFStern wrote: | | If Christianity is the one true faith, and God wants everybody to go to Heaven by accepting it, then why did it take our species (which is about 195,000 years old) approximately 190,000 years to discover it (while in the meantime worshipping all manner of "false" gods and following scores of "fake" religions)? |
False Gods and false religions were created by satan in order to get humans to worship him instead of God. What do you think Satan was doing in these verses, playing freeze tag. He was up to know good.
Job 1:7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
He was creating false religions. Why do you think ALL ancient peoples worshipped serpents.
Humans aren't 190,000 years old. Those are what people with common sense called apes. The oldest known REAL HUMAN fossil dates back no more than 10,000 years
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | .
the bible says whosoever in reference to saying thou fool.
you're the one that doesn't read things in context.
did you ever bother to educate yourself on things such as evolution and atheism and other things in the videos we offered you?
i can assure you that you are wasting your time if you are here to convert us and yet will not try to bone up on why exactly we see things the way we do.
quoting scripture at us to imply that we are evil monstrous retards, ain't gonna get'cha nowhere.
we can just quote right back at'cha!
Proverbs 15:1 A soft answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.
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If your an atheist you are a fool. Yeshua was talking to about people who call their brothers fools without a cause.
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hillbillyatheist
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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wrong! here is the verse again.
| Quote: | | Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. |
first it says, if you are angry with your brother without cause, you are in danger of hellfire, then the verse says that you will be in trouble for saying "raca" to your brother, then it says
"whosoever says "thou fool" is in danger of hell fire."
and does not say brother in that part of the verse. |
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| Disciple of Truth wrote: | | If your an atheist you are a fool. Yeshua was talking to about people who call their brothers fools without a cause. |
Looks like I'll be seeing you in Hell. Read the damn verse. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Disciple of Truth wrote: | | If your an atheist you are a fool. |
"you're"
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