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Castaa Forum Master


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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: Former press secretary McClellan slams Bush in new book |
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html
"Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan writes in a surprisingly scathing memoir to be published next week that President Bush “veered terribly off course,” was not “open and forthright on Iraq,” and took a “permanent campaign approach” to governing at the expense of candor and competence."
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Gettin' In Tune Forum Master


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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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I might agree with McCellan on a lot of accusations, but why is he waiting until NOW to come forth? Perfect timing to sell a book?
According to this article, I think McCellan is laying to much blame on the national press and the media.
*"He says the White House press corps was too easy on the administration during the run-up to the war."
*"McClellan repeatedly embraces the rhetoric of Bush's liberal critics and even charges: “If anything, the national press corps was probably too deferential to the White House and to the administration in regard to the most important decision facing the nation during my years in Washington, the choice over whether to go to war in Iraq."
*“The collapse of the administration’s rationales for war, which became apparent months after our invasion, should never have come as such a surprise. … In this case, the ‘liberal media’ didn’t live up to its reputation. If it had, the country would have been better served.” |
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Castaa Forum Master


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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Oh I totally agree. The press was cowed and played big time.
In regards to the war aside from the current administration, I blame the leaders of the armed services and Colin Powell. They were "experts" and the ones that should have said no and put up more of a fight. They knew better than anyone about the potential costs involved of fighting these wars undermanned. |
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Gettin' In Tune Forum Master


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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Powell speak up? How did we end up with Rice? |
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Materialist99 Forum Plebian


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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Gettin' In Tune wrote: | | Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Powell speak up? How did we end up with Rice? |
Powell spoke up at the United Nations, and gave a speech about Iraq's weapons of Mass Destruction. It was an absurd speech, but a lot of Americans believed it, and it gave a lot of credibility to the War Party. _________________
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Eyedunno The Great JuJu at the Bottom of the Sea

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| I remember thinking what a douche this guy was when I saw him in press conferences. I don't have much of a soft spot for political mouthpieces in general though. |
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Gettin' In Tune Forum Master


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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:26 am Post subject: |
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I think he was being a sock puppet during that time. I think he resigned abruptly, and thus he spoke up.
| Quote: | | Secretary of State Colin L. Powell announced his resignation yesterday, ending four years of battles with Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld over the course of U.S. foreign policy. |
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Or is this another case of the "liberal" media not speaking up? |
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BarkAtTheMoon O Captain, my Captain

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Eyedunno wrote: | | I remember thinking what a douche this guy was when I saw him in press conferences. I don't have much of a soft spot for political mouthpieces in general though. |
Not all of them can live up to the master.
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Gettin' In Tune Forum Master


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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Socialism rules.
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| Gettin' In Tune wrote: | Socialism rules.
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Right on. DEATH TO CAPITALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________ After supper she got out her book and learned me about Moses and the Bulrushes, and I was in a sweat to find out all about him; but by and by she let it out that Moses had been dead a considerable long time; so then I didn't care no more about him, because I don't take no stock in dead people. Huck Fin |
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gnosis Forum Master


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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Who the hell is that guy in the picture anyway? _________________ "Agnostics: Atheists without balls." -Stephen Colbert |
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Moloth Fateless

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| gnosis wrote: | | Who the hell is that guy in the picture anyway? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Bob
On April 7, 2003, al-Sahhaf claimed that there were no American troops in Baghdad, and that the Americans were committing suicide by the hundreds at the city's gates. At that time, American tanks were patrolling the streets only a few hundred yards from the location where the press conference was held. His last public appearance as Information Minister was on April 8, 2003, when he said that the Americans "are going to surrender or be burned in their tanks. They will surrender, it is they who will surrender".
the video footage was goddamn hilarious... "There are no Americans here! they are 100 miles away!" *as explosions happen behind him and he winces* _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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gnosis Forum Master


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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Oh yeah I remember that! Even though the Iraq war itself is far from funny, that was bordering on hilarious. _________________ "Agnostics: Atheists without balls." -Stephen Colbert |
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