Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 16071 Local time: 3:27 AM Location: Denver Colorado.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject:
chrisreid wrote:
hillbillyatheist wrote:
I'm for free-speech. this means if you want to burn a flag, its your right. same as flying upside down to signify distress, or even if its to say down with america.
so whether its disrespectful is moot.
the point is you should be free to express your opinions.
exactly. i tried to explain the freedom of speech but they said it was bullshit and while we're partying they have kids my age dying for that flag. it's ironic because my mother said to never join the military and hate the government and i told her i wasn't disrespecting any of the soldiers who died... they don't get the picture it seems.
you should have told your parents that those soldiers are (at least supposedly) dying for what that flag stands for which is liberty (like free-speech for example). not the flag itself.
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject:
chrisreid wrote:
my mother actually called me a "marxist"
The Rick Copeland is somewhat of a Marxist, if by that you mean of the Grouchomarxism variety. He'd love to cordon off Therickcopelanlandland and rule it as his own private Freedonia... Although his own little Sealand would be rad as well... _________________ “I think it’s also important for the President to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
-- George W. Bush on Clinton's involvement in Kosovo, 1999
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject:
hillbillyatheist wrote:
you should have told your parents that those soldiers are (at least supposedly) dying for what that flag stands for which is liberty (like free-speech for example). not the flag itself.
very good point. idk why i never thought of it in our pathetic debate.
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 3064 Local time: 8:27 AM
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject:
chrisreid wrote:
idk why i never thought of it in our pathetic debate.
The Rick Copeland wins every argument by simply saying "oh, yeah? You and what army?". Works every time...
Here're a few examples:
Other dude: "I think the war on/ of terror is making America safer. We have Al Qaida on the run."
The Rick Copeland: "Oh, yeah? You and what army?"
The Rick Copeland's girlfriend: "The Rick Copeland, where do you want to go for dinner?"
The Rick Copeland: "Oh, yeah? You and what army?"
Register jockey guy: "Would you like to super size that for only two cents?"
The Rick Copeland: "Oh yeah? You and what army?"
There is no situation in which that line fails. None. Nada. Bupkis... _________________ “I think it’s also important for the President to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
-- George W. Bush on Clinton's involvement in Kosovo, 1999
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject:
I've never really cared. The flag doesn't mean much to me, just like the Pledge and the National Anthem don't mean much after they've been repeated fifty-thousand emotionless times. If someone wants to hang a flag upside down, I set let them. _________________ Regarding creationists: Aren't these the same people who gave us alchemy and astrology, and who told us the earth, besides being flat, was at the center of the universe? Why don't we just kill these fucking people? ~George Carlin
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject:
chrisreid wrote:
exactly. i tried to explain the freedom of speech but they said it was bullshit and while we're partying they have kids my age dying for that flag. it's ironic because my mother said to never join the military and hate the government and i told her i wasn't disrespecting any of the soldiers who died... they don't get the picture it seems.
Anybody who says something like that, I tell them kids are dying because of the Bush crime family and the morons who put them in office -- period. _________________ Please visit my site at www.caseagainstfaith.com featuring critiques of Lee Strobel and other apologetics
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject:
not_a_theist wrote:
redraiderdude187 wrote:
Who gives a fuck? Don't buy into the flag-worshiping, yellow-ribboned nationalistic bull shit that seems to pervade every bit of American life. It's a piece of cloth that could subjectively represent something to someone. What it represents to me is the ideals of this country that are currently be shit on every day by the people running it, and if someone doesn't like the shit-stained flag when it's rubbed in their noses, they're immediately labeled anti-American pinko commies by people whose IQ MIGHT exceed 87 but somehow got a job as a pundit/politician/campaigner.
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Anyway, I wouldn't worry about what kind of "signal" a piece of multi-colored cloth made in sweat-shops in Indonesia is sending out...
_________________ After supper she got out her book and learned me about Moses and the Bulrushes, and I was in a sweat to find out all about him; but by and by she let it out that Moses had been dead a considerable long time; so then I didn't care no more about him, because I don't take no stock in dead people. Huck Fin
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject:
rickcopeland648 wrote:
chrisreid wrote:
idk why i never thought of it in our pathetic debate.
The Rick Copeland wins every argument by simply saying "oh, yeah? You and what army?". Works every time...
Here're a few examples:
Other dude: "I think the war on/ of terror is making America safer. We have Al Qaida on the run."
The Rick Copeland: "Oh, yeah? You and what army?"
The Rick Copeland's girlfriend: "The Rick Copeland, where do you want to go for dinner?"
The Rick Copeland: "Oh, yeah? You and what army?"
Register jockey guy: "Would you like to super size that for only two cents?"
The Rick Copeland: "Oh yeah? You and what army?"
There is no situation in which that line fails. None. Nada. Bupkis...
As demonstrated in an episode of Scrubs, "So's your face" also works in any argument.
"But that doesn't make any sense."
"So's your face."
pwned. _________________ "The very existence of flame throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, 'You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.' - George Carlin
"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 9908 Local time: 5:27 PM Location: Colorado
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject:
chrisreid wrote:
I told my parents we were in distress because we didn't have any more beer and no one was capable of driving so we had to end the party at 3... they didn't buy it.
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Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 1366 Local time: 3:27 AM
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:
Remind the parent that the Bush elder has a flag sewn inside his jacket, and equally offensive display, yet when done by the powerful apparantly is patriotic, when done by real patriots however, it is considered blashphemy.
Joined: 27 Feb 2008 Posts: 2490 Local time: 3:27 AM Location: California
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:50 am Post subject:
redraiderdude187 wrote:
Who gives a fuck? Don't buy into the flag-worshiping, yellow-ribboned nationalistic bull shit that seems to pervade every bit of American life. It's a piece of cloth that could subjectively represent something to someone. What it represents to me is the ideals of this country that are currently be shit on every day by the people running it, and if someone doesn't like the shit-stained flag when it's rubbed in their noses, they're immediately labeled anti-American pinko commies by people whose IQ MIGHT exceed 87 but somehow got a job as a pundit/politician/campaigner.
[/rant]
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about what kind of "signal" a piece of multi-colored cloth made in sweat-shops in Indonesia is sending out...
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