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Knight_of_BAAWA
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject:

Philosophos wrote:

Individuals own other individuals (like I'm owning you), cats own individuals, there's no such thing as self ownership, etc., etc., etc.

Anyone who has cats knows that the cat(s) own(s) everything.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:

Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:

Philosophos wrote:

Individuals own other individuals (like I'm owning you), cats own individuals, there's no such thing as self ownership, etc., etc., etc.

Anyone who has cats knows that the cat(s) own(s) everything.

too true. lol...
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:

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Gettin' In Tune wrote:

Fucking cute.

Be careful, Newman - he called me cute, and... well, take a look at my sig to see what followed.

staying away, need to be an adult Wink

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:

Knight_of_BAAWA wrote:

Philosophos wrote:

Individuals own other individuals (like I'm owning you), cats own individuals, there's no such thing as self ownership, etc., etc., etc.

Anyone who has cats knows that the cat(s) own(s) everything.

And if they think they don't own something, they'll "mix their labor" with it in their own special way in order to make it theirs.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:

Cats don't own the internet nor did they create it...labor did.

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject:

Gettin' In Tune wrote:

Cats don't own the internet nor did they create it.

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject:

Cats are not is the set of possibilities on self ownership. Do you understand?

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject:

Gettin' In Tune wrote:

Cats are not is the set of possibilities on self ownership.

Justify that, please.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject:

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Gettin' In Tune wrote:

Cats are not is the set of possibilities on self ownership.

Justify that, please.

Justify your hostility towards me.

Cats don't own people, you theistic fucktard.

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject:

Gettin' In Tune wrote:

Cats don't own people

Why not? Please justify your claim.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:38 pm Post subject:

Gettin' In Tune wrote:

You cannot say "this is mine" without labor.

So if labor goes away, so will ownership... sweet Smile

Oddly, I don't labor anymore (I depend on investments for income) and yet once I purchase something with the fruits of my investments, most people would consider it "owned" by me.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject:

MockingGods wrote:

Gettin' In Tune wrote:

You cannot say "this is mine" without labor.

So if labor goes away, so will ownership... sweet Smile

And then the robots will rise up and kill us all... not sweet! Sad

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject:

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Gettin' In Tune wrote:

You cannot say "this is mine" without labor.

So if labor goes away, so will ownership... sweet Smile

And then the robots will rise up and kill us all... not sweet! Sad

We're moving rapidly towards more and more automation. I amazes me how little of what we consume is made with actual human labor now.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject:

MockingGods wrote:

We're moving rapidly towards more and more automation. I amazes me how little of what we consume is made with actual human labor now.

There's really still a lot of labor involved in designing, maintaining and deploying such equipment though.

Wasn't that one of Marx's predictions about how capitalism would fail? That labor would get pushed out by machines?
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: The President = A King

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The Presidency is nothing more than a tenuous remnant of a monarchy. Why do we need a president?

Cause many, many millions of successful generations of being watched and led is built into the Homosapien.

The founders didn't know the cause of "follow the leader" but they tried to build in safeguards against the inevitable, King, Pharaoh, Czar, ext...
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