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josephpalazzo
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| Missionary wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: |
Religious is like the measles: it shows up again with every new generation... |
As I stated in my OP,"[snip]...replacing ideas with slogans.." Thanks for the support.  |
I'm flattered that you consider my analogy as a slogan, but only when i see it on t-shirts will that become a true slogan... 
On a more serious note, continuing my analogy, religion is like a disease, in that, it develops new strains -- new cults, new sects, new denominations -- and those who have the ability to adapt will survive (neo-darwinism)... |
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Basilosaur
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| Atheism has not been the cause for a single death while your holy wars have continued for hundreds of years and your endless burning on the crosses killed so many people talk about atheist killing. |
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Missionary
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | Missionary wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: |
Religious is like the measles: it shows up again with every new generation... |
As I stated in my OP,"[snip]...replacing ideas with slogans.." Thanks for the support. |
I'm flattered that you consider my analogy as a slogan, but only when i see it on t-shirts will that become a true slogan...
On a more serious note, continuing my analogy, religion is like a disease, in that, it develops new strains -- new cults, new sects, new denominations -- and those who have the ability to adapt will survive (neo-darwinism)... |
And my suggestion is that you are identifying and targeting religion as the source of the disease as opposed to the symptomatic manifestation of the disease. It's like saying that "coughing, runny nose, and fever" is itself a disease while not identifying the virus which is causing the actual symptoms.
Sin is the disease. Religion is one symptom. |
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SpecterOpacus
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| Missionary wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | "GUYS, DONT STEROTYPE, ZOMG ITS NOT COOL!"
"Guys, your an atheist, so you want to fuck over every one because Darwin and Sam Harris, your in that group, and waa waa waa im a fucking pussy".
Seriously, you have called people out on sterotyping Christians, then pull this shit. You ALSO did it in the same thread where you bitched about us sterotyping Christians. Do you READ a damn thing you type?
Does any one have the, "HELP, MINORITY ABUSE!" pie chart of religions? I think it would be beautiful for missionary to see it. |
At least you got my point. It was an illustration of stereotyping. Ridiculous isn't it? |
No you fucking stupid piece of shit. There is no atheist dogma. Not every atheist shares their viewpoint because atheism is not a viewpoint but A LACK OF ONE. It's a DISbelief, whereas your ENTIRE FUCKING BELIEF SYSTEMS RESTS UPON A SINGLE FUCKING BOOK.
It's so hard to argue with someone like you because you're one of those fucking morons who likes to throw around words like "dogma" and "belief" onto other people because you lack any fucking knowledge on how to qualify a person's beliefs. Many Buddhists consider themselves atheist, would you also say they follow our "dogma"? No, you can't. What does EVERY Christian follow, Missionary? Spreading the word of God and believing in the saving power of Jesus Christ. Every. Single. One. If you don't, then you're not a Christian. That's what one is by fucking definition! All an atheist is, is someone who lacks a belief ina deity. THERE ARE NO OTHER STRINGS ATTACHED TO THIS.
So you can blabber on with the "atheist agenda" and make it sound like you know something, but unfortunately you lack any sort of fucking knowledge needed to make a respectful fucking argument.
Saying Stalin and Lenin did what they did because of ATHEISM is STUPID. They did what they did because of their ALTERED COMMUNISTIC BELIEFS. Jesus, any fucking historian (that isn't a Christian loony-bag) will tell you that!
Stupid. Fuck.
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SpecterOpacus
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| Missionary wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Missionary wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: |
Religious is like the measles: it shows up again with every new generation... |
As I stated in my OP,"[snip]...replacing ideas with slogans.." Thanks for the support. |
I'm flattered that you consider my analogy as a slogan, but only when i see it on t-shirts will that become a true slogan...
On a more serious note, continuing my analogy, religion is like a disease, in that, it develops new strains -- new cults, new sects, new denominations -- and those who have the ability to adapt will survive (neo-darwinism)... |
And my suggestion is that you are identifying and targeting religion as the source of the disease as opposed to the symptomatic manifestation of the disease. It's like saying that "coughing, runny nose, and fever" is itself a disease while not identifying the virus which is causing the actual symptoms.
Sin is the disease. Religion is one symptom. |
You're an idiot.
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Missionary
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| SpecterOpacus wrote: | | Missionary wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | "GUYS, DONT STEROTYPE, ZOMG ITS NOT COOL!"
"Guys, your an atheist, so you want to fuck over every one because Darwin and Sam Harris, your in that group, and waa waa waa im a fucking pussy".
Seriously, you have called people out on sterotyping Christians, then pull this shit. You ALSO did it in the same thread where you bitched about us sterotyping Christians. Do you READ a damn thing you type?
Does any one have the, "HELP, MINORITY ABUSE!" pie chart of religions? I think it would be beautiful for missionary to see it. |
At least you got my point. It was an illustration of stereotyping. Ridiculous isn't it? |
No you fucking stupid piece of shit. There is no atheist dogma. Not every atheist shares their viewpoint because atheism is not a viewpoint but A LACK OF ONE. It's a DISbelief, whereas your ENTIRE FUCKING BELIEF SYSTEMS RESTS UPON A SINGLE FUCKING BOOK.
It's so hard to argue with someone like you because you're one of those fucking morons who likes to throw around words like "dogma" and "belief" onto other people because you lack any fucking knowledge on how to qualify a person's beliefs. Many Buddhists consider themselves atheist, would you also say they follow our "dogma"? No, you can't. What does EVERY Christian follow, Missionary? Spreading the word of God and believing in the saving power of Jesus Christ. Every. Single. One. If you don't, then you're not a Christian. That's what one is by fucking definition! All an atheist is, is someone who lacks a belief ina deity. THERE ARE NO OTHER STRINGS ATTACHED TO THIS.
So you can blabber on with the "atheist agenda" and make it sound like you know something, but unfortunately you lack any sort of fucking knowledge needed to make a respectful fucking argument.
Saying Stalin and Lenin did what they did because of ATHEISM is STUPID. They did what they did because of their ALTERED COMMUNISTIC BELIEFS. Jesus, any fucking historian (that isn't a Christian loony-bag) will tell you that!
Stupid. Fuck. |
You are here, yes? With like-minded atheists, yes? The evidence is hundreds of forum pages spewing a mirror image of your contempt, bitterness, and rage. Fundamental dogmatic atheism has coagulated. It has a voice and it moves together in a chaotic and aggressive manner. It is uncoordinated anarchy.
It is not simply a matter of polite civil discourse and philosophy. It has extremely heightened emotion exhibiting a negative discharge. |
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RyanDzundza
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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its not because your religious we dont like you, its because your an idiot,
we dont suffer fools gladly around here (cant remember which poem that was in now)
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josephpalazzo
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| Missionary wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: | | Missionary wrote: | | josephpalazzo wrote: |
Religious is like the measles: it shows up again with every new generation... |
As I stated in my OP,"[snip]...replacing ideas with slogans.." Thanks for the support. |
I'm flattered that you consider my analogy as a slogan, but only when i see it on t-shirts will that become a true slogan...
On a more serious note, continuing my analogy, religion is like a disease, in that, it develops new strains -- new cults, new sects, new denominations -- and those who have the ability to adapt will survive (neo-darwinism)... |
And my suggestion is that you are identifying and targeting religion as the source of the disease as opposed to the symptomatic manifestation of the disease. It's like saying that "coughing, runny nose, and fever" is itself a disease while not identifying the virus which is causing the actual symptoms.
Sin is the disease. Religion is one symptom. |
Sin has meaning only in a religious context.
What I'm saying is that religion IS the virus. In another analogy, religion is an ideology, along with nazism, communism, etc. It's also a dangerous ideology, that lends itself to violence and atrocities. |
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kmisho
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slogans? Christianity is so successful because it's a bumpersticker religion.
Platitudes are easy to sell because they're all gooey and feel nice. That's all christianity has going for it.
"Sin is the disease. Religion is one symptom."
Sin as a concept would not exist without religion. Religion is the cause of sin, not the actions that are considered sinful but sin itself.
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Now this religion happens to prevail/Until by that one it is overthrown/Because men dare not live with men alone/But always with another fairy tale.
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SpecterOpacus
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Missionary wrote: | | SpecterOpacus wrote: | | Missionary wrote: | | Shiranu wrote: | "GUYS, DONT STEROTYPE, ZOMG ITS NOT COOL!"
"Guys, your an atheist, so you want to fuck over every one because Darwin and Sam Harris, your in that group, and waa waa waa im a fucking pussy".
Seriously, you have called people out on sterotyping Christians, then pull this shit. You ALSO did it in the same thread where you bitched about us sterotyping Christians. Do you READ a damn thing you type?
Does any one have the, "HELP, MINORITY ABUSE!" pie chart of religions? I think it would be beautiful for missionary to see it. |
At least you got my point. It was an illustration of stereotyping. Ridiculous isn't it? |
No you fucking stupid piece of shit. There is no atheist dogma. Not every atheist shares their viewpoint because atheism is not a viewpoint but A LACK OF ONE. It's a DISbelief, whereas your ENTIRE FUCKING BELIEF SYSTEMS RESTS UPON A SINGLE FUCKING BOOK.
It's so hard to argue with someone like you because you're one of those fucking morons who likes to throw around words like "dogma" and "belief" onto other people because you lack any fucking knowledge on how to qualify a person's beliefs. Many Buddhists consider themselves atheist, would you also say they follow our "dogma"? No, you can't. What does EVERY Christian follow, Missionary? Spreading the word of God and believing in the saving power of Jesus Christ. Every. Single. One. If you don't, then you're not a Christian. That's what one is by fucking definition! All an atheist is, is someone who lacks a belief ina deity. THERE ARE NO OTHER STRINGS ATTACHED TO THIS.
So you can blabber on with the "atheist agenda" and make it sound like you know something, but unfortunately you lack any sort of fucking knowledge needed to make a respectful fucking argument.
Saying Stalin and Lenin did what they did because of ATHEISM is STUPID. They did what they did because of their ALTERED COMMUNISTIC BELIEFS. Jesus, any fucking historian (that isn't a Christian loony-bag) will tell you that!
Stupid. Fuck. |
You are here, yes? With like-minded atheists, yes? The evidence is hundreds of forum pages spewing a mirror image of your contempt, bitterness, and rage. Fundamental dogmatic atheism has coagulated. It has a voice and it moves together in a chaotic and aggressive manner. It is uncoordinated anarchy.
It is not simply a matter of polite civil discourse and philosophy. It has extremely heightened emotion exhibiting a negative discharge. |
There is no such thing as "dogmatic atheism" as I have shown through the fucking meaning of the word "atheism."
Like I said, fucking morons who throw around the word "dogma."
Edit: Actually I can't even start to think how you missed my entire post. You're a fucking troll.
Ban please.
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josephpalazzo
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Fundamental dogmatic atheism has coagulated. .
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Strawman. |
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Missionary
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| josephpalazzo wrote: |
Sin has meaning only in a religious context.
What I'm saying is that religion IS the virus. In another analogy, religion is an ideology, along with nazism, communism, etc. It's also a dangerous ideology, that lends itself to violence and atrocities. |
"Sin has meaning only in a religious context" is a non-believers unwillingness to *consider the possibility* that any and every ideology has a single source of infection whose symptoms include religion, nazis, communism, hate, war, difference, intolerance, crime, drug addiction, etc.
Look at how one can easy correlate a constant reference between all those symptoms I mentioned...self centered me-ism.
One single person breeds a prideful arrogant greed.
Brings like minded together
forms in group/out group
in group seeks to dominate out group
resistance leads to war
The application can be made to any circumstance:
individual criminal vs. a victim
oppressor/oppressed
street gang/rival gang
civil war
border conflict
political party
religion
but the same dynamics apply. ME > Group > out group > conflict. |
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Missionary
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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There is no such thing as "dogmatic atheism" as I have shown through the fucking meaning of the word "atheism."
Like I said, fucking morons who throw around the word "dogma."
Edit: Actually I can't even start to think how you missed my entire post. You're a fucking troll.
Ban please. |
Ban. The cry of the intellectually and philosophically stumped. |
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Missionary
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| josephpalazzo wrote: | | Missionary wrote: |
Fundamental dogmatic atheism has coagulated. .
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Strawman. |
Every thread and post give meat and life to animate the obvious.
The consistency and intensity of emotional outbursts is one red flag of many. |
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kmisho
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | "Sin has meaning only in a religious context" is a non-believers unwillingness to *consider the possibility* that any and every ideology has a single source of infection whose symptoms include religion, nazis, communism, hate, war, difference, intolerance, crime, drug addiction, etc. |
Bull. All of these thigns have antecedents, none of which are "sin".
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Now this religion happens to prevail/Until by that one it is overthrown/Because men dare not live with men alone/But always with another fairy tale.
al-Ma'arri, Syrian Poet, died 1057
You deny the existence of 999 alleged Gods. I merely deny one more - yours.
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"Never is a long time." Robert Fripp, 1998
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