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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject:
hillbillyatheist wrote:
i don't think krammer is racist either.
in his case, he lost his temper with some black hecklers and was lashing out in anger.
he wasn't expressing beliefs in racism, he was trying to hurt those hecklers feelings because he was pissed at them.
(kinda like if you call someone a retard because you're mad at them, it doesn't mean you actually hate mentally disabled folks)
that said I am not defending krammer. my mouth dropped open listening to him.
frankly though the kid in the first video wasn't any worse than the TV show family guy.
his routine didn't bother me. he doesn't seem angry or serious.
even still thats a public school and there running for valedictorian these kids are supposed to be the schools best and brightest and the only thing this kid can come up with for a speech is racial slurs and talking about some teachers breasts? and he gets applause for it? its fine for family guy to run content like this because family guy doesnt come on until after 11pm but just because family guy can run mature content doesnt mean its fine for a teenager in a high school to get up in front of everyone on a mic and repeat it.
sure he didnt seem angry or serious but he did use both racist and sexist comments in his speech and weather or not he was joking its not ok for him to use comments like that. whats acceptable on a tv show doesnt mean its acceptable in a school or work environment. _________________
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject:
nny156 wrote:
sure he didnt seem angry or serious but he did use both racist and sexist comments in his speech and weather or not he was joking its not ok for him to use comments like that. whats acceptable on a tv show doesnt mean its acceptable in a school or work environment.
I agree. hence why I said this seems rather unprofessional for a valedictorian speech.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject:
hillbillyatheist wrote:
nny156 wrote:
sure he didnt seem angry or serious but he did use both racist and sexist comments in his speech and weather or not he was joking its not ok for him to use comments like that. whats acceptable on a tv show doesnt mean its acceptable in a school or work environment.
I agree. hence why I said this seems rather unprofessional for a valedictorian speech.
exactly
im still amazed they let him talk for so long _________________
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject:
hillbillyatheist wrote:
i don't think krammer is racist either.
in his case, he lost his temper with some black hecklers and was lashing out in anger.
he wasn't expressing beliefs in racism, he was trying to hurt those hecklers feelings because he was pissed at them.
(kinda like if you call someone a retard because you're mad at them, it doesn't mean you actually hate mentally disabled folks)
that said I am not defending krammer. my mouth dropped open listening to him.
frankly though the kid in the first video wasn't any worse than the TV show family guy.
his routine didn't bother me. he doesn't seem angry or serious.
Yeah, this wasn't too far off from something you would see on Family Guy. I don't think it was appropriate for a valedictorian speech, but I was expecting far worse from the title of this thread. The stuff he said about black women was distasteful, but nothing to get up in arms about. I'm not in any position to judge any of the other stuff he did/said really though.
But I definitely think Michael Richards has some issues with black folks. You don't go off talking about people being lynched and shouting nigger nigger nigger if you don't have some deeply harbored feelings about blacks. _________________ "Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate." - F.M. Knowles
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject:
Moloth wrote:
Zocrates wrote:
You don't go off talking about people being lynched and shouting nigger nigger nigger TAUNTING THE BLACK MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE THE WAY HE DID if you don't have some deeply harbored feelings about blacks.
Chris Rock and Richard Pryor smirk at you.
Edited. _________________ "Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate." - F.M. Knowles
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject:
it's actually great comedy, and things are really different now in school even, than in the past. it wasn't bad at all and was totally satirical, get over it . _________________ www.myspace.com/dwj21
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject:
zo I agree that this is not the same as chris rock because Michael wasn't joking.
however haven't you ever gotten angry and said things you didn't really mean?
I don't know this guy, but it is entirely possible he has nothing against blacks, but in a fit of rage lashed out at these hecklers and simply wanted to say the most hurtful things he could think of.
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