joshuas3521 Nobody Expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 2182 Local time: 1:00 PM Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: School prayer debate turns into Hitler debate
this was soooo unorganized. I liked some of the points made by Ron Barrier, but it all ends up going to hell with one of the funniest non sequitur connections I have ever heard a theist make.
_________________ "What I'm saying is, if God wanted to send us a message, and ancient writings were the only way he could think of doing it, he could have done a better job." --Carl Sagan
"In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." --Douglas Adams
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 540 Local time: 1:00 PM Location: The Island of Koridai
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:49 am Post subject:
I've never seen someone get off-topic so quickly. _________________ Regarding creationists: Aren't these the same people who gave us alchemy and astrology, and who told us the earth, besides being flat, was at the center of the universe? Why don't we just kill these fucking people? ~George Carlin
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 3014 Local time: 6:00 PM
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:31 am Post subject:
Holy Godwin's law, Batman!
It's amazing that that fellow was once Madalyn Murray O'Hair's son. His arguing with the organization founded by his dead mom is kinda strange to The Rick Copeland...
joshuas3521 wrote:
... one of the funniest non sequitur connections I have ever heard a theist make.
Believe it or not, the reductio ad Hitlerum is quite common. The Rick Copeland cannot recall how many discussions he has had and heard in which the silly "you know, Hitler (or Stalin) was an atheist." is applied as though it was the death knell of atheism... _________________ “I think it’s also important for the President to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
-- George W. Bush on Clinton's involvement in Kosovo, 1999
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 47 Local time: 1:00 PM Location: Gregminster, Toran Republic
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject:
EvilEggCracker wrote:
Catholics aren't Christians?
Not according to protestant christians. The whole thing of the church having equal authority with the bible and of praying to mary for intercession somehow revokes their membership card. _________________ I am jack's smirking revenge. - Fight Club
Philosophy is useless, Theology is worse - Dire Straits
Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 219 Local time: 4:00 AM
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: School prayer debate turns into Hitler debate
joshuas3521 wrote:
this was soooo unorganized. I liked some of the points made by Ron Barrier, but it all ends up going to hell with one of the funniest non sequitur connections I have ever heard a theist make.
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 540 Local time: 1:00 PM Location: The Island of Koridai
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject:
Of course, God is a Christian who has killed lots of people, so by being a Christian you must be saying that killing lots of people in a global flood is O.K. and that makes you a bad person so you are wrong. _________________ Regarding creationists: Aren't these the same people who gave us alchemy and astrology, and who told us the earth, besides being flat, was at the center of the universe? Why don't we just kill these fucking people? ~George Carlin
Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 680 Local time: 6:00 PM Location: Wales
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject:
Why 1937? Hitler didn't kill any Jews in 1937 as far as I know. They were discriminated against greatly but the holocaust itself did not begin until the war itself. _________________ "God doesn't have a limp" House
Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 837 Local time: 1:00 PM
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:
eximius wrote:
Why 1937? Hitler didn't kill any Jews in 1937 as far as I know. They were discriminated against greatly but the holocaust itself did not begin until the war itself.
Perhaps not 1937, but killings of Jews did begin before the war. Kristallnacht occured in 1938. 91 Jews were killed. Now it was more disorganized killing than the systematic slaughter which occured after the war began, but still clearly done with the consent of Hitler and some level of organizational assistance by the NSDAP and SA.
Believe it or not, the reductio ad Hitlerum is quite common. The Rick Copeland cannot recall how many discussions he has had and heard in which the silly "you know, Hitler (or Stalin) was an atheist." is applied as though it was the death knell of atheism...
I would be tempted to reply in kind: You know, Hitler (or Stalin) had a funny haircut...."
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 290 Local time: 12:00 PM
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:18 am Post subject:
Another genius. _________________ "People who harbor strong convictions without evidence belong at the margins of our societies, not in our halls of power." - Sam Harris
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 540 Local time: 1:00 PM Location: The Island of Koridai
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:03 am Post subject:
Aren't they all? I can't decide who has contributed less to society, this guy or the one who says the shape of Laminin proves God's existence. _________________ Regarding creationists: Aren't these the same people who gave us alchemy and astrology, and who told us the earth, besides being flat, was at the center of the universe? Why don't we just kill these fucking people? ~George Carlin
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 2066 Local time: 2:00 AM Location: In space, with a traffic cone
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject:
According to Jesus, people are supposed to pray in private, not in a public place where they can be seen by others. By demanding prayer in public schools, Christians are going against Jesus' specific instructions. But then, they never have a problem ignoring everything Jesus said, anyway. _________________ Kryten: Don't you believe that God exists in all things? Aren't you a Pantheist?
Lister: Yeah, I just don't think it applies to kitchen utensils. I'm not a Fryingpantheist.
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this was soooo unorganized. I liked some of the points made by Ron Barrier, but it all ends up going to hell with one of the funniest non sequitur connections I have ever heard a theist make.
