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hillbillyatheist Administrator


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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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questions it is then.
I have made the official post.
Mr C go ahead and start er up.
(I won't post between questions here. take turns, make answers short. and try to answer within a day or two if you can.)
after the last question I will make the official post for closing statements |
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Daggett Forum Leader


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| Mr. C, I've pointed someone to you and to the debate you and romans had. I know jack squat about biblical authorship and authenticity, so I couldn't handle the guy. Anyway, his screen name is fanofazrienoch and you can find our discussion here. I was wondering if you could give me any ammo, 'cuz my armory's all dried up on the topic of history. |
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romans120 Moderator


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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Daggett wrote: | | Mr. C, I've pointed someone to you and to the debate you and romans had. I know jack squat about biblical authorship and authenticity, so I couldn't handle the guy. Anyway, his screen name is fanofazrienoch and you can find our discussion here. I was wondering if you could give me any ammo, 'cuz my armory's all dried up on the topic of history. |
I like how he gets around the controversy of the "testimonium Flavonium" by just using the undisputed parts about Jesus's brother (very good) Hope Mr._C has something to say _________________ The Resident Theist
For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. Romans 1:19-20
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Vyrian Forum Leader


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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Jesus: Non Existent half man half Velociraptor. Ruined the JP movie. _________________
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Daggett Forum Leader


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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Reminder: My username over there is Angry_Beaver, just so you know which discussion I'm talking about.
I was getting pretty tired at the time and had to get to some homework. Not sure if I'd have been able to make a better rebuttal under better circumstances. |
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Mr_C Reckoner

Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Posts: 6546 Local time: 7:34 PM Location: Pale Blue Dot

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| Daggett wrote: | | Mr. C, I've pointed someone to you and to the debate you and romans had. I know jack squat about biblical authorship and authenticity, so I couldn't handle the guy. Anyway, his screen name is fanofazrienoch and you can find our discussion here. I was wondering if you could give me any ammo, 'cuz my armory's all dried up on the topic of history. |
Unfortunately I can't access that site from work...
I would love to help you though. If there's anything specific you want to post here, please feel free.
Otherwise I'll see what I can do from home.
| Romans120 wrote: | | I like how he gets around the controversy of the "testimonium Flavonium" by just using the undisputed parts about Jesus's brother (very good) Hope Mr._C has something to say |
There really are no "undisputed parts", but I'm not sure why it should matter since Josephus published this about 6 decades after Jesus supposedly died. |
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pr126 resident misanthrope

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Why not take a swipe at Mithras? Same story, different players.
I believe there are about 16 different "heroes" with the same story line.
| Quote: | Most of the research into Mithraism, a religion with many parallels to Christianity, comes from two writers, Cumont and Ulansey. Some Similarities Between Mithraism and Christianity Among the recorded similarities are:
Virgin birth
Twelve followers
Killing and resurrection
Miracles
Birthdate on December 25
Morality
Mankind's savior
Known as the Light of the world
The Legend of Mithra |
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tinaanne11 Visitor

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| it is most likely that christianity originated in the asia minor region( the fact that the writings of paul predate the gospels support this) resulting from the mixture(syncretism) of pagan savior god mythology(reference the mystery religions) with jewish messianic thought(probably influenced by the Essenes) which would explain no mention of a person by the name of jesus in any jewish historical records of the time. the probability that there was a historical jesus is infinitesimal. christina knight |
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baddogma antitheist

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| tinaanne11 wrote: | | it is most likely that christianity originated in the asia minor region( the fact that the writings of paul predate the gospels support this) resulting from the mixture(syncretism) of pagan savior god mythology(reference the mystery religions) with jewish messianic thought(probably influenced by the Essenes) which would explain no mention of a person by the name of jesus in any jewish historical records of the time. the probability that there was a historical jesus is infinitesimal. christina knight |
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Moloth Coin Operated Boy

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| tinaanne11 wrote: | | it is most likely that christianity originated in the asia minor region( the fact that the writings of paul predate the gospels support this) resulting from the mixture(syncretism) of pagan savior god mythology(reference the mystery religions) with jewish messianic thought(probably influenced by the Essenes) which would explain no mention of a person by the name of jesus in any jewish historical records of the time. the probability that there was a historical jesus is infinitesimal. christina knight |
http://www.google.com/search?q=christina+knight&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
which one are you? _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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Vyrian Forum Leader


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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Jesus: Fake Freak that made love to Camells. _________________
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Mr_C Reckoner

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Moloth wrote: | | tinaanne11 wrote: | | it is most likely that christianity originated in the asia minor region( the fact that the writings of paul predate the gospels support this) resulting from the mixture(syncretism) of pagan savior god mythology(reference the mystery religions) with jewish messianic thought(probably influenced by the Essenes) which would explain no mention of a person by the name of jesus in any jewish historical records of the time. the probability that there was a historical jesus is infinitesimal. christina knight |
http://www.google.com/search?q=christina+knight&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
which one are you? |
This one |
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Moloth Coin Operated Boy

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Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr_C wrote: | | Moloth wrote: | | tinaanne11 wrote: | | it is most likely that christianity originated in the asia minor region( the fact that the writings of paul predate the gospels support this) resulting from the mixture(syncretism) of pagan savior god mythology(reference the mystery religions) with jewish messianic thought(probably influenced by the Essenes) which would explain no mention of a person by the name of jesus in any jewish historical records of the time. the probability that there was a historical jesus is infinitesimal. christina knight |
http://www.google.com/search?q=christina+knight&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
which one are you? |
This one |
ah. a real intellectual giant, i can tell. _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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