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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: The Power of God
So the christians claim God created the universe. But considering the only thing in the void of absolute nothingness at the time would be God himself, that means that he had nothing with which to create and thusly "willed" everything into existence. From that we could say that God's power and all-mightyness comes exclusively from will-power. So if you confronted God, would it be possible to destroy him with will power, assuming you have a stronger will than God?
This is just something I've been tinkering with in my mind, so if it sounds like total bullshit, please say so. I promise I won't scream "fuck you" 3 million times in all caps. _________________ Pressure: It can turn a lump of coal into a flawless diamond, or a normal person into a total basketcase.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject:
I think you're accepting too much of their bullshit as plausible. If god existed in the void of absolute nothingness, it wasn't a void of absolute nothingness.
And how did god "will" anything into existence anyway? And confronting God is any way is about as rational as confronting the tooth fairy
They're just making shit up. _________________ "I love and treasure individuals as I meet them; I loathe and despise the groups they identify with and belong to" -George Carlin
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:
jkorath wrote:
I think you're accepting too much of their bullshit as plausible. If god existed in the void of absolute nothingness, it wasn't a void of absolute nothingness.
And how did god "will" anything into existence anyway? And confronting God is any way is about as rational as confronting the tooth fairy
They're just making shit up.
Well yeah, I'm just making a what if scenario. Hell if God exists, then I'm Bill O'fuckingReilly. _________________ Pressure: It can turn a lump of coal into a flawless diamond, or a normal person into a total basketcase.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of God
Cracker Jack wrote:
This is just something I've been tinkering with in my mind, so if it sounds like total bullshit, please say so. I promise I won't scream "fuck you" 3 million times in all caps.
It sounds like total bullsht.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject:
Ho-hum... even if gods did exist, and you could destroy them, there would be those who would still believe. So in reality, or rather make-believe, god will exist until humans no longer need the jock strap for support. _________________ Its not that I question so much whether a god created man, but that he would admit it.- Thomas Brumfield
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:
aitm wrote:
Ho-hum... even if gods did exist, and you could destroy them, there would be those who would still believe. So in reality, or rather make-believe, god will exist until humans no longer need the jock strap for support.
Fuck... didn't think of that. _________________ Pressure: It can turn a lump of coal into a flawless diamond, or a normal person into a total basketcase.
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:16 am Post subject:
Vyrian wrote:
*Stabs god in the throat* There he's dead. You fucking happy now? Move on.
OMG! YOU JUST KILLED MY DOG! You must be dyslexic. _________________ "Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, underwhich weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God, for if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Re: The Power of God
Cracker Jack wrote:
So the christians claim God created the universe. But considering the only thing in the void of absolute nothingness at the time would be God himself, that means that he had nothing with which to create and thusly "willed" everything into existence. From that we could say that God's power and all-mightyness comes exclusively from will-power. So if you confronted God, would it be possible to destroy him with will power, assuming you have a stronger will than God?
This is just something I've been tinkering with in my mind, so if it sounds like total bullshit, please say so. I promise I won't scream "fuck you" 3 million times in all caps.
The power of God ceased when I stopped believing in him. I think that is why fundies continue to believe in God. Because they know deep down underneath their profession of faith, once they stop believing in God, he'll just vanish in thin air never to return again. Unless they fearfully start believing again out of their own ignorance.
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:00 am Post subject:
aitm wrote:
Ho-hum... even if gods did exist, and you could destroy them, there would be those who would still believe. So in reality, or rather make-believe, god will exist until humans no longer need the jock strap for support.
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:59 am Post subject:
Indeed, many gods, whole pantheons of gods are dead already, as people stopped believing in them.
They have been just as potent, just as powerful to the believers then, as the still existing gods are today.
Who is to say, which gods if any, will be still around in a thousand years from now? _________________ “The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.” - Ayn Rand
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of God
Cracker Jack wrote:
So the christians claim God created the universe. But considering the only thing in the void of absolute nothingness at the time would be God himself, that means that he had nothing with which to create and thusly "willed" everything into existence. From that we could say that God's power and all-mightyness comes exclusively from will-power. So if you confronted God, would it be possible to destroy him with will power, assuming you have a stronger will than God?
This is just something I've been tinkering with in my mind, so if it sounds like total bullshit, please say so. I promise I won't scream "fuck you" 3 million times in all caps.
There was (within the Christian and other traditions) an Angel that asked this same question. We call him Lucifer. _________________ Divinus Mentis Monsters in the Bible?
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: The Power of God
mawst wrote:
Cracker Jack wrote:
So the christians claim God created the universe. But considering the only thing in the void of absolute nothingness at the time would be God himself, that means that he had nothing with which to create and thusly "willed" everything into existence. From that we could say that God's power and all-mightyness comes exclusively from will-power. So if you confronted God, would it be possible to destroy him with will power, assuming you have a stronger will than God?
This is just something I've been tinkering with in my mind, so if it sounds like total bullshit, please say so. I promise I won't scream "fuck you" 3 million times in all caps.
There was (within the Christian and other traditions) an Angel that asked this same question. We call him Lucifer.
Correction: "Allegedly, there was (within the Christian and other traditions) an Angel that asked this same question. We call him Lucifer." _________________ "What I'm saying is, if God wanted to send us a message, and ancient writings were the only way he could think of doing it, he could have done a better job." --Carl Sagan
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: Re: The Power of God
joshuas3521 wrote:
mawst wrote:
Cracker Jack wrote:
So the christians claim God created the universe. But considering the only thing in the void of absolute nothingness at the time would be God himself, that means that he had nothing with which to create and thusly "willed" everything into existence. From that we could say that God's power and all-mightyness comes exclusively from will-power. So if you confronted God, would it be possible to destroy him with will power, assuming you have a stronger will than God?
This is just something I've been tinkering with in my mind, so if it sounds like total bullshit, please say so. I promise I won't scream "fuck you" 3 million times in all caps.
There was (within the Christian and other traditions) an Angel that asked this same question. We call him Lucifer.
Correction: "Allegedly, there was (within the Christian and other traditions) an Angel that asked this same question. We call him Lucifer."
No, not allegedly. Within Christian and other traditions.
For those who know, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not know, no explanation will suffice.
We live in a culture that mocks almost every genuine virtue in human behavior.
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