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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OP means original poster if I am not mistaken.

I am a mod, but I dislike the banning people for preaching rule. I feel they have a right to say their mind and we have a right to speak ours.

however he will get banned if he doesn't stop preaching and start debating.

but I am at least trying to give him a chance to wise up before I am forced to ban him.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

howgoyoufar wrote:
Oh, and to clarify- I wasn't calling you idiotic. All the animosity in that post was towards jesusman.


I wasn't insulted at all. I just thought I would get banned for a rule I didn't know.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

howgoyoufar wrote:
First of all, OP- God would know what it felt like to be human since A. he created us and B. he's all knowing. Your argument is so fucking flawed I don't know where to start. Jesus knew he was GOD. He KNEW he would spend infinity in heaven. Goddamn, if I was promised that, I would have no problem with dying for it.

Second, Raggle- A ban hammer is something used to smite idiotic posters who don't follow the rules even after being told to do so...such as our OP here...waiting for a mod to get on this.

Yep. Jesus didn't give up shit. If Jesus was going to hell for eternity INSTEAD of us then christianity would make a more sense. If the redemption was in the death. When Jesus rose from the dead, the resurrection rescinded the redemption.

I am unimpressed by Jesus pretending to die.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

But..HBA...he's annoyinnnnnggggggg.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

howgoyoufar wrote:
First of all, OP- God would know what it felt like to be human since A. he created us and B. he's all knowing. Your argument is so fucking flawed I don't know where to start. Jesus knew he was GOD. He KNEW he would spend infinity in heaven. Goddamn, if I was promised that, I would have no problem with dying for it.

Second, Raggle- A ban hammer is something used to smite idiotic posters who don't follow the rules even after being told to do so...such as our OP here...waiting for a mod to get on this.


God stepped out of "his world" and entered ours. He gave up infinity for time, royalty for poverty. He did all this to show us that he loves us. He gave up his laid down his life for us. Yes, he did know but to go through it all with people denying him and still god kept his word, that's how much love he has for us. God didn't have to do any of this, he could have just destroyed the whole world or, he could of just force people to follow him. The lord stayed on the cross taking on all the world's sins, he could of came down when people were taunting him but, he didn't he kept his word, giving everyone a chance to be forgiven of their sins. He did all this to show us how much he loves us.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Or he could have just killed satan and stopped the evil at its source.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

tadams86 this is your final warning. stop preaching or you will be shown the door.

we want evidence for your god before we will even waste time with the "jesus loves you so much" crap.

put up or shut up.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hillbillyatheist wrote:
tadams86 wrote:
Raggle Fraggle wrote:
tadams86 wrote:
Jesus suffered more then any of us so, who are we to complain about the world sufferings.


That's not true. To be fair, other people were crucified and whipped. What about the thieves that were crucified with Jesus?


Jesus gave up his life for us. He gave up royalty for poverty, he gave up infinity for time, and he took on all the sins for us. Think about this.... What is the only way a pet animal can truly understand its owner's love for it? The only way is if that owner can become just like it, walk like it and talk like it. That's what god did for us he gave up his life for us by becoming one of us, walking with us and talking with us. By him doing that he showed us his love for us.
you are wasting your time.

until you prove your gods existence, your platitudes are irrelevant and things we have heard many times before.

I in fact am the son of a preacher. so stop wasting our time with your preaching, and either give us some valid arguments and evidence for your god, or go away.


If god showed you a sign that he is real would you believe? Yes or no
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You DON'T know what the meaning of atheism is. I'm also willing to bet you have no idea just how many of us are aspostates.

As Hillbilly Atheist has stated. You're breaking the rules by proselytizing. He doesn't like to ban people. I on the other hand won't give it a second thought.

You bring nothing new to the table. Just the same old tired dogma that's been refuted over and over.

This is your last friendly warning.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

howgoyoufar wrote:
But..HBA...he's annoyinnnnnggggggg.
agreed, but imo, free-speech is about everyone having their say.

the only people I am willing to censor are spammers.

some dude wanting to tell us about jesus is indeed annoying but it gives us a chance to maybe, just maybe, educate him.

Mr_C came here to preach and now he is an atheist.

I do not support banning this new guy, but of course thats the rules and I'll do my job if he doesn't start debating and stop preaching.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

tadams86 wrote:
hillbillyatheist wrote:
tadams86 wrote:
Raggle Fraggle wrote:
tadams86 wrote:
Jesus suffered more then any of us so, who are we to complain about the world sufferings.


That's not true. To be fair, other people were crucified and whipped. What about the thieves that were crucified with Jesus?


Jesus gave up his life for us. He gave up royalty for poverty, he gave up infinity for time, and he took on all the sins for us. Think about this.... What is the only way a pet animal can truly understand its owner's love for it? The only way is if that owner can become just like it, walk like it and talk like it. That's what god did for us he gave up his life for us by becoming one of us, walking with us and talking with us. By him doing that he showed us his love for us.
you are wasting your time.

until you prove your gods existence, your platitudes are irrelevant and things we have heard many times before.

I in fact am the son of a preacher. so stop wasting our time with your preaching, and either give us some valid arguments and evidence for your god, or go away.


If god showed you a sign that he is real would you believe? Yes or no
yes of course, if you proved he existed, I would change my mind.

can you? can you even offer some good arguments for his existence?
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hillbillyatheist wrote:
howgoyoufar wrote:
But..HBA...he's annoyinnnnnggggggg.
agreed, but imo, free-speech is about everyone having their say.


I agree with him. He deserves a chance to speak as much as we do. It sucks when people won't even listen to your opinion.
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tadams86 wrote:
hillbillyatheist wrote:
tadams86 wrote:
Raggle Fraggle wrote:
tadams86 wrote:
Jesus suffered more then any of us so, who are we to complain about the world sufferings.


That's not true. To be fair, other people were crucified and whipped. What about the thieves that were crucified with Jesus?


Jesus gave up his life for us. He gave up royalty for poverty, he gave up infinity for time, and he took on all the sins for us. Think about this.... What is the only way a pet animal can truly understand its owner's love for it? The only way is if that owner can become just like it, walk like it and talk like it. That's what god did for us he gave up his life for us by becoming one of us, walking with us and talking with us. By him doing that he showed us his love for us.
you are wasting your time.

until you prove your gods existence, your platitudes are irrelevant and things we have heard many times before.

I in fact am the son of a preacher. so stop wasting our time with your preaching, and either give us some valid arguments and evidence for your god, or go away.


If god showed you a sign that he is real would you believe? Yes or no

The only thing that could convince me there is a god is if I was god. Anything else could be a trick of some kind.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nimitz wrote:
You DON'T know what the meaning of atheism is. I'm also willing to bet you have no idea just how many of us are aspostates.

As Hillbilly Atheist has stated. You're breaking the rules by proselytizing. He doesn't like to ban people. I on the other hand won't give it a second thought.

You bring nothing new to the table. Just the same old tired dogma that's been refuted over and over.

This is your last friendly warning.


oh good, you can do the honers if he doesn't straighten up. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

HBA, I agree with you. It's just annoying to see the same shit over and over..
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