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tadams86
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 Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: If GOD showed you a sign........ |
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| To all the people who don't believe in god, I have a question for you, would you believe that god exits if he showed you a sign? If you answered yes, deep down you believe because if you truly didn't no matter what, you would have answered no. The thing is, you haven't seen a sign that YOU’RE looking for, that's why you say you don't believe. The bible says "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah." <<Matthew>> Jesus said "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed."<<John>> To be an atheist you must have a infinite amount of faith, you have to have absolute infinite knowledge that there is no god and if you have that then, you must be god yourself. To believe in god and to believe that Jesus is the son of god you only need a little amount of faith, Jesus said "Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.<<Matthew>> |
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hillbillyatheist
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would you believe in unicorns if you saw one? (and you weren't on drugs)
so does this mean you kinda believe in them now? |
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Felix
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wow I really believe! now all thanks to tadams86 he was sent to us by god himself. but now im confused which god should I believe in?
stupid jackass go out to the streets and save a crackhead or someone that is stupid enough to take your bullshit seriously.
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| Quote: | | To be an atheist you must have a infinite amount of faith, you have to have absolute infinite knowledge that there is no god and if you have that then, you must be god yourself. |
You don't know what atheism is.
We've read the book "It takes more faith to be an atheist". Try some Carl Sagan instead.
| Quote: | | The thing is, you haven't seen a sign that YOU’RE looking for, that's why you say you don't believe. |
Don't you think an ominscience god would know what sign it would take for me to believe? Don't you think that he/she/it would provide me with that sign?
Why do you believe in a god that turns it's back on atheists? Turn his/her/it's back on a world of suffering? Why do you think this god would let the fucking Redwings into the play-offs this season? |
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Raggle Fraggle
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Ha. The Redwings. He is not a merciful god.
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“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”
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Raggle Fraggle
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That's probably one of my favorite quotes, second only to "where's the beef!?"
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tadams86
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| hillbillyatheist wrote: | would you believe in unicorns if you saw one? (and you weren't on drugs)
so does this mean you kinda believe in them now? |
I don't believe in unicorns cause, I haven't seen one. If I did, I would believe. The thing is I don't believe cause I haven't seen. You don't believe in God cause you haven't seen the signs that your looking for. Jesus said "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah." |
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Raggle Fraggle
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Sign of Jonah? What does a man that was eaten by a whale have to do with my want for proof?
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Dear God,
Put up or shut up.
Amen
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Raggle Fraggle
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| tadams86 wrote: | | I don't believe in unicorns cause, I haven't seen one. If I did, I would believe. The thing is I don't believe cause I haven't seen. |
By your logic, you believe in unicorns. What are you huffing?
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tadams86
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| Nimitz wrote: | | Quote: | | To be an atheist you must have a infinite amount of faith, you have to have absolute infinite knowledge that there is no god and if you have that then, you must be god yourself. |
You don't know what atheism is.
We've read the book "It takes more faith to be an atheist". Try some Carl Sagan instead.
| Quote: | | The thing is, you haven't seen a sign that YOU’RE looking for, that's why you say you don't believe. |
Don't you think an ominscience god would know what sign it would take for me to believe? Don't you think that he/she/it would provide me with that sign?
Why do you believe in a god that turns it's back on atheists? Turn his/her/it's back on a world of suffering? Why do you think this god would let the fucking Redwings into the play-offs this season? |
LOL Redwings, but serioulsy, God loves us all, he loves us even before we become christians, that's why jesus died for us. Jesus suffered more then any of us so, who are we to complain about the world sufferings. Is God doing anything about death and suffering?
People who accuse God of sitting back and doing nothing are missing a vital truth. In reality, God has already done everything you would want a loving God to do—and infinitely more!
The Son of God became a man and endured both suffering and a horrible death on man’s behalf.
Adam’s sin left mankind in a terrible predicament. Even though our bodies die, we are made in the image of God, and thus we have souls that are immortal. Our conscious being is going to live forever. Unless God intervened, Adam’s sin meant that we would spend an eternity of suffering and separation from Him.
The only way for us to restore our life with God is if we are able to come to Him with the penalty paid for our sin. Leviticus 17:11 helps us to understand how this can be done. It says, ‘The life of the flesh is in the blood.’ Blood represents life. The New Testament explains that ‘without the shedding of blood there is no remission [of sins]’ (Hebrews 9:22). God makes it clear that, because we are creatures of flesh and blood, the only way to pay the penalty for our sin is if blood is shed to take away our sin.
In the Garden of Eden, God killed an animal and clothed Adam and Eve as a picture of a covering for our sin. A blood sacrifice was needed because of our sin. The Israelites sacrificed animals over and over again; however, because Adam’s blood does not flow in animals, animal blood, though it could temporarily cover our sin, could never take it away. The Hebrew word translated ‘atonement’ is kaphar, which means ‘cover.’
The solution was God’s plan to send His Son, the Second Person of the triune Godhead, the Lord Jesus Christ, to become a man—a perfect man—to be a sacrifice for sin. In the person of Jesus Christ, our Creator God stepped into history (John 1:1–14) to become a physical descendant of Adam, called ‘the last Adam’ (1 Corinthians 15:45), born of a virgin. Because the Holy Spirit overshadowed His mother (Luke 1:35), He was a perfect man, one without sin—despite having been tempted in every way that we are (Hebrews 4:15)—who thus could shed His blood on a cross for our sin.
Because mankind’s first representative head—Adam—was responsible for bringing sin and death into the world, the human race can now have a new representative—the ‘last Adam’—who paid the penalty for sin. No sinner could pay for the sins of others, but this last Adam—Jesus Christ—was a perfect man. God in human flesh was able to bear the sins and sorrows of the world |
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tadams86
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| Raggle Fraggle wrote: | | tadams86 wrote: | | I don't believe in unicorns cause, I haven't seen one. If I did, I would believe. The thing is I don't believe cause I haven't seen. |
By your logic, you believe in unicorns. What are you huffing? |
I don't believe because I never saw one. If I did, I'll believe. Most don't believe in god cause they never saw a sign that there looking for. But, if they did, then they will believe. |
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Raggle Fraggle
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| tadams86 wrote: | | Jesus suffered more then any of us so, who are we to complain about the world sufferings. |
That's not true. To be fair, other people were crucified and whipped. What about the thieves that were crucified with Jesus?
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