Joined: 02 Jan 2007 Posts: 268 Local time: 5:31 PM
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: KEITH OLBERMANN special commentary - Jan 3rd
Castaa wrote:
It's about the leaked Bush plan to increased troop levels in Iraq.
Too bad the people who need to listen...will never listen to Keith Olbermann. _________________ If you understand 2001 on the first viewing, we will have failed. - Arthur C. Clarke
(actually, my brother and my father gave it to me so that i would rant at IT and not THEM; i'm more than a little reviled for my rants)
i've got one already, i might start putting them up on my website. the VN-3100 records in .WAV, so turning them into .MP3 won't be hard. _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 23071 Local time: 5:31 PM Location: Warner Robins, GA
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject:
Like i say: "If you're NOT pissed off, you're not paying attention OR you're part of the problem"
There are many, MANY very legitimate reasons to BE pissed in this political, educational and cultural climate. _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 3021 Local time: 10:31 PM
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:02 am Post subject:
Go, Keith, go...
Another source of Iraq war criticism can be found at the now defunct podcast "Watch it Burn". The host, Brian Kinser was a rarity: an anti-Bush atheist mechanic in Iraq. Due to his disgust with the war, when given the opportunity to re-enlist and perhaps get promoted he opted to leave. He's now back in the US and possibly working on a new podcast. _________________ “I think it’s also important for the President to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
-- George W. Bush on Clinton's involvement in Kosovo, 1999
(actually, my brother and my father gave it to me so that i would rant at IT and not THEM; i'm more than a little reviled for my rants)
i've got one already, i might start putting them up on my website. the VN-3100 records in .WAV, so turning them into .MP3 won't be hard.
Just one word of advice, don't think about the recording or the device or what to say, just flow. When you're done, edit out the pauses and breaths. You'll get something that makes you sound really cool! _________________ Namaste,
CET
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 23071 Local time: 5:31 PM Location: Warner Robins, GA
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject:
yeah, the hardest part is forgetting that the device is there... once i did that, it was fine. _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 9217 Local time: 8:31 AM
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:35 am Post subject:
Bush's mistake was information mining in the begining, he would have done better by taking the humanitarian angle,"This guy is a genocidal maniac" and then been patient to build a colleltion.
But his biggest mistake was trying to conduct the war on a Wal Mart budget. Now he is doing it again. If he thinks adding 20k will get the Iraqi's trained and end the violence by November he is fucked in the head.
We had everything we wanted and all the sympathy in the world after 9/11 and Bush and his ego and his "God fear'en John Wayne" bluff has fucked this country over.
I truely hope this damage is reversable but it is certainly going to take an egoleptomy on the republican's part and a pragmatic goverment in both parties to not jump the gun.
Thank you Olberman for for removing King Bush's crown! _________________ My favorite song ever is by Diesel called "Sausalito Summernights" a one hit wonder in 1981.
Joined: 02 Apr 2003 Posts: 12842 Local time: 2:31 PM Location: SoCal, USA
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject:
Brian37 wrote:
Bush's mistake was information mining in the begining, he would have done better by taking the humanitarian angle,"This guy is a genocidal maniac" and then been patient to build a colleltion.
Personally, I would have liked him to take the "broken cease fire" angle. The Gulf War never ended, there was no peace treaty, we only had a cease-fire. The cease-fire was broken on a practically daily basis for 10 years when his army was launching SAMs at coalition aircraft patrolling the no-fly zones. I did two tours in the middle east on ONW (Operation Northern Watch). I sat in a VC-10 refueling tanker. I don't like Surface to Air Missiles flying past me during a cease fire, let alone while I'm sitting on 250,000 lbs of jet fuel!
Taking someone to task for breaking a cease fire is easy to prove and do. You break the cease fire, you get the SMACK DOWN. _________________ Namaste,
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