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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mathew wrote:
Well, if I had the choice of spending an eternity in Heaven with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, James Dobson, and all those other right-wing nutjobs, then I'd choose Hell in a heartbeat...


Have you consider that you might meet those same people in hell???
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

josephpalazzo wrote:
Mathew wrote:
Well, if I had the choice of spending an eternity in Heaven with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, James Dobson, and all those other right-wing nutjobs, then I'd choose Hell in a heartbeat...


Have you consider that you might meet those same people in hell???

If they are in hell... than who the hell is in heaven? What set of rules are being followed here?
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munky99999 wrote:
josephpalazzo wrote:
Mathew wrote:
Well, if I had the choice of spending an eternity in Heaven with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, James Dobson, and all those other right-wing nutjobs, then I'd choose Hell in a heartbeat...


Have you consider that you might meet those same people in hell???

If they are in hell... than who the hell is in heaven? What set of rules are being followed here?


Only the very pure get to heaven... which amounts to about a dozen people, plus or minus two...
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Exclusion.ist...
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rickcopeland648 wrote:
Exclusion.ist...


Naw, more like elit•ist
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

josephpalazzo wrote:
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Well, if I had the choice of spending an eternity in Heaven with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, James Dobson, and all those other right-wing nutjobs, then I'd choose Hell in a heartbeat...


Have you consider that you might meet those same people in hell???


On the bright side, I could help the demons torture them! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

By definition there were no christians before christ, by obseration none since- me.

Therefore, only those allowed by the OT are in heaven, which if I remember correctly doesn't even have one. So its god and jesus. Big whoop.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ive heard a lot christians tell me I could go to heaven if I only repent.

which makes me think how many assholes repented before they died.
which leads me to believe that heaven is going to be full of drug addicts & child molesters.

Hell is looking a lot better plus you don't die so its just like one big video game in hell.
we kill one another then we respawn and kill the guy that killed you while he is tea bagging your corpse.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ChrissyFos wrote:
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....let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam.


Let's not and say we did. Sorry...I'm tired of pretending. Brick wall


Making an assumption for the sake of argument can be a useful thing to do once in a while.

For instance, assuming the basics of the Christian paradigm...

God has a severe inferiority complex.

Seriously, he does, assuming the Christian paradigm.

What can God use as a measure to determine if he is good enough, wise enough, etc.? Nothing. He's at the top, there is no greater, so he has no way to measure himself.

That's why he relies so heavily on the faith of others to bolster his own self esteem.

Not only that, he prefers blind faith to knowing faith.

That's also why he's so obsessed with testing his followers in the manner of Job or Abraham (sacrificing Issac).

It even extends to the angelic revolt when he ordered Lucifer to lead the revolt, to see how many of the other angels would follow God or Lucifer (yet another test), and then confined Lucifer to hell with the rest of the devils (this time testing Lucifer).

It also explains why the Old Testament depicts a mercurial vengeful God. What a pitiful God is found in Abraham's God.

All that, assuming the Christian paradigm.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jason_Harvestdancer wrote:
ChrissyFos wrote:
Baillie wrote:
....let's assume the Christian god is more than just a tired superstition/scam.


Let's not and say we did. Sorry...I'm tired of pretending. Brick wall


Making an assumption for the sake of argument can be a useful thing to do once in a while.


I agree and you do have a point with the rest of your post, but once you get past the redundancy of the what if's and the maybe's ....it all goes back to the same questions and the same answer. It's like having a series of rotating questions, but the answer never changes and everything only ends in circles. When you bypass the idea of god, you realize that life is much more complex and interesting than anything limited by some ancient fairy tale.

If we're going to make assumptions, let's start with a more plausible, productive foundation, like your brain is god!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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josephpalazzo wrote:
Mathew wrote:
Well, if I had the choice of spending an eternity in Heaven with Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ann Coulter, James Dobson, and all those other right-wing nutjobs, then I'd choose Hell in a heartbeat...


Have you consider that you might meet those same people in hell???


On the bright side, I could help the demons torture them!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

no, the bible says hell is like knawing on your tounge for eternity. everysingle bad feeling youve ever had in your life, is what it feels like in hell (guilt, feeling that you forgot something you know that sucks, heartbreak, death, ect..)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jesusismyhero wrote:
no, the bible says hell is like knawing on your tounge for eternity. everysingle bad feeling youve ever had in your life, is what it feels like in hell (guilt, feeling that you forgot something you know that sucks, heartbreak, death, ect..)


good thing Hell doesn't exist, huh?
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jesusismyhero wrote:
no, the bible says hell is like knawing on your tounge for eternity. everysingle bad feeling youve ever had in your life, is what it feels like in hell (guilt, feeling that you forgot something you know that sucks, heartbreak, death, ect..)

no way. Jesus is my hero to. Though I'm not sure if he's #1 on the list. Cthulhu has to be the #1 evil. God is definately #2. With JEsus a close 3rd. Hitler a very close 4th.
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AND, LO....



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