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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: Jesus Camp Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I watched "Jesus Camp" last night (or at least part of it as I couldn't go past the point where the dude starts on the issue of abortion...). Anyway, I realize that this topic may have already been discussed since the documentary was released in 2006 but I was wondering if anyone else was I disturbed and saddened as I was by what I saw. To add insult to injury, I found the following synopsis on the film:

"A growing number of Evangelical Christians believe there is a revival underway in America that requires Christian youth to assume leadership in advocating the cause of their religious movement.

Jesus Camp follows a group of young children to Pastor Becky Fischer’s “Kids on Fire Summer Camp,” where kids are taught to become dedicated Christian soldiers in God’s army and are schooled in how to take back America for Christ. The film is a first-ever look into an intense training ground that recruits born-again Christian children to become an active part of America’s political future." http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/ [emphasis mine]

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a downloadable/viewable version of the documentary, only clips on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RNfL6IVWCE

Sick, sick, sick...sad, sad, sad!!



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Some parts were child abuse protected behind the first amendment...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The Rick Copeland saw "Jesus Camp" when it played in local theaters. It's odd in that it portrays a very real American subculture that seems as far removed to The Rick Copeland as any National Geographic special in which natives spear a wildebeast.

One of the most disturbing things regarding the movie is that The Rick Copeland has read that woman in it has said she found it to be quite accurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

the kids are the victims in this... that's what makes me sad. they can't help it if they're indoctrinated like that. they don't have a choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I particularly liked the part where she preaches about the dangers of sin while comparing it to a cute baby lion that grows into a bigger, less cute, carnivorous lion. Oddly enough, she seemed to have no problem swinging the stuffed Sin Lion around by the tail.

I've never seen the entire documentary and I hope to eventually, but it really disturbs me to think that things like this happen. Children being reeled in by the promise of a fun summer camp and being flooded with doctrines and dogmas. It nearly made me cringe when the young boy discussed how he felt uncomfortable around non-Christians, and that he wanted more out of life and needed to be saved at five years old. The scariest movie in years.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Harry Potter is a warlock that is the fabrication of the devil and belongs in hell....whoa!

At least jesus allowed me to grow up in an era of civility and purity:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wander wrote:
I particularly liked the part where she preaches about the dangers of sin while comparing it to a cute baby lion that grows into a bigger, less cute, carnivorous lion. Oddly enough, she seemed to have no problem swinging the stuffed Sin Lion around by the tail.


It's funny that you happened to mention that particular segment because (if you pay close attention), you'll notice that she actually said "tiger" when showing the big lion. I was just wondering if it was sheer stupidity or a Freudian slip.

But to the point, I was disturbed by the whole thing and felt very sad for the children, yet, I couldn't help but wonder if the reverse were done (say a "Darwin Camp") how would the "religious right" react to it? As for the poor kid with the mullet (Levi), god help him! At the sake of being judgmental and prejudiced, he'll probably grow up to bomb abortion clinics and lynch those he doesn't approve of or who don't conform to his "moral" code.




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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There are two different kind of people in this world:
"Those who love jesus and those who do not" --jesus camp lady (Levi's mother).

How divisive and intolerant.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jesuschrshit wrote:
It's funny that you happened to mention that particular segment because (if you pay close attention), you'll notice that she actually said "tiger" when showing the big lion. I was just wondering if it was sheer stupidity or a Freudian slip.


Really? I never noticed. Do you know where I can watch that clip again? A specific link, perhaps?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

jesuschrshit wrote:
I was just wondering if it was sheer stupidity or a Freudian slip.


more than likely sheer stupidity rather than a freduian slip.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wander wrote:
Really? I never noticed. Do you know where I can watch that clip again? A specific link, perhaps?


Looking at it again, I realiaze that she refers to it as "a tiger by the tail" - not so sure now that it was not an intentional idiom but wrong, sick and sad all the same. Judge for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAEJMxFw4bc&feature=related




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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah, she certainly said "tiger". I can only hope she was struggling to come up with an idiom to use and that was the first one that came to mind; surely even an Evangelical wouldn't confuse lions and tigers.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

She could have unconsciously confused tigers with lions because it's the lions that like to eat Christians because they are crispy and taste good with ketchup...he he
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

haha that's pretty funny she said tiger... it just shows how incredibly stupid she is. that's so mean of her to indoctrinate kids like that. she must have been abused as a child or something.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Chris:

Look at her - who or what would molest that? Maybe that's the reason why she's such a domenetrix...




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