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If god exist, then he is transcendent(i.e outside time and space)
If god exist, he is omnipresent
To be transcendent, a being cannot exist anywhere in space
To be omnipresent, a being must exist everywhere in space
Hence, it is impossible for a transcendent being to be omnipresent
Therefore it is impossible for god to exist
If god exist, then he is perfect
If god exist, then he is the creater of the universe
If a being is perfect anything he creates must be perfect
but the universe is not perfect
Hence it is impossible for god to exist
if you want to hear more from the book search:god the failed hypothesis notes at google
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Well, a god that fits that criteria does not exist, but taking an agnostic viewpoint, I don't think that it proves that there is no god  good find though
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to each his own brother
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| joshuas3521 wrote: | | Well, a god that fits that criteria does not exist, but taking an agnostic viewpoint, I don't think that it proves that there is no god good find though |
True, but it does disprove omni-max claims.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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nice but religious people will just say something like god is god normal rules do not apply, so he can exist nowhere and everywhere at the same time 
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| RyanDzundza wrote: | | nice but religious people will just say something like god is god normal rules do not apply, so he can exist nowhere and everywhere at the same time |
And then you either nail them with my previous argument on how God can "transcend logic" (dammit! I tried to link, but the archives are down), or you embarrass them emotionally.
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Hit_me_up024
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religious poeple always have an explanation for all our arguments. Its always like-well theres no proof of god because he doesnt want there to be-bullshit
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| Philosophos wrote: | | And then you either nail them with my previous argument on how God can "transcend logic" (dammit! I tried to link, but the archives are down).... |
You will post the link when the archives return, won't you?
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If I remember, yes.
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